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Old 21st October 2014, 16:37
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Re: Identity Red Air Force losses to German night fighters SE Europe 1944?

I want to thank and commend all you posters on this thread. This is first class work and what we want to see. There are still issues and unknowns on the thread, but you guys are trying to work them out.

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Old 21st October 2014, 19:33
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Re: Identity Red Air Force losses to German night fighters SE Europe 1944?

Hi,
The map attached may be used to plot the locations. Don't know if that is of any help.
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Old 21st October 2014, 20:16
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Re: Identity Red Air Force losses to German night fighters SE Europe 1944?

Some other losses:

336 AP DD Lisunov Li-2VT, S/N: 18413302 crashed between Turjavágás & Turjasebes, Hungary (now: Ukraine) on September 18/19, 1944 with л-т Абашкин Григорий Андреевич's crew onboard.

24 GvAP DD DB-3F (IL-4), S/N: 5223901 (М-88Б engines: 8806 & 10584) crashed near Debrecen on September 15/16, 1944 with мл.л-т Красавцев Николай Сергеевич's crew due to flak. (1st plane of 522nd batch in factory No.39) 3 KIA, but Krasavtsev evaded and successfully returned after hiding on November 13, 1944.

337 AP DD B-25C Mitchell, S/N: 41-13021, tail red "65" (R-2600-13 engines: 42-77425 & 42-271768), crashed at Vámospércs, along the railway at Debrecen-E on September 20/21, 1944 with гв.л-т Петров Александр Васильевич's crew. 3 MIA, 2 men (including Petrov) escaped from captivity.

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Old 21st October 2014, 22:14
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Re: Identity Red Air Force losses to German night fighters SE Europe 1944?

Hello and good evening Michael and Gabor,

Cheers and thanks for these additions, very interesting. Michael; the map is useful for plotting purposes, but in order to establish the exact and correct locations of the following Fighter Grid Squares (Planquadrate), could anyone help me with the locations that fit the following (all I believe in Hungary):

Pl.Q. FC

Pl.Q. EA 1

Pl.Q. DD 1.4

Pl.Q. DD 7

Pl.Q. DB

Pl.Q. EA

Pl.Q. GB

Pl.Q. EE


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Re: Identity Red Air Force losses to German night fighters SE Europe 1944?

Hi Theo,
I think we have been here before.
Please use the Luma found here:
http://www.gyges.dk/reporting_grids.htm
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