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Old 8th July 2012, 20:50
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He 111s losses of KG 55 over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.41?

Units from III/KG 55 had lost at least 3 He 111s over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.1941. Is there any information about exact time of this losses: morning or afternoon?

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Old 8th July 2012, 21:46
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Re: He 111s losses of KG 55 over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.41?

WNr. 1410 and 2132 in the morning 04.00 and 1385 in the afternoon 15.50.

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Old 9th July 2012, 09:22
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Re: He 111s losses of KG 55 over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.41?

Thanks, so in means, that these both had destroyed early in the morning were shot down by Soviet pilots from 46. IAP of 14. SAD from Młynów: Ivanov had done ramming over Dubno and was killed. He was flying on I-16 typ 5. Dubno is not so far from Łuck

Next one was shot down by capt. I. Geybo (commander of 46. IAP). He claimed a shot down of German bomber. He also took off on I-16 from Młynów a few minute later after Ivanov's zvienos.


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Old 9th July 2012, 10:06
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Re: He 111s losses of KG 55 over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.41?

Please note, that also other III/KG 55 aircraft were shot down:
WNr. 2128 Labunie, Eigener Flakbeschuß um 04.30 Uhr und Flugzeug verbrannt. Bruch 100 %.
WNr. 2140 Bei Olesko an der Straße Lemberg - Brody, Notlandung infolge Jägerbeschuß um 04.00 Uhr. Bruch 100 %.
WNr. 2145 Slipcze, Feindbeschuß. Bruch 40 %.
WNr. 1537 Fl.Pl. Klemensow, Bauchlandung infolge Jägerbeschuß um 05.00 Uhr. Bruch 25 %.

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Old 9th July 2012, 15:07
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Re: He 111s losses of KG 55 over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.41?

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Originally Posted by Mirek Wawrzynski View Post
Units from III/KG 55 had lost at least 3 He 111s over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.1941. Is there any information about exact time of this losses: morning or afternoon?

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Have you consulted III./55 KTB? http://yogysoft.de/pawel/3554_00.html

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Old 9th July 2012, 16:13
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Re: He 111s losses of KG 55 over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.41?

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Have you consulted III./55 KTB? http://yogysoft.de/pawel/3554_00.html
Not to this day, good job, :-)
And nice site, but attacking a "rote Jager - Doppeldecker)" is according my info wrong.
On 4.25 in the morning took off from Młynów 3 I-16 typ 5 of 46. IAP (st. lejt. Ivan I. Ivanov) and next was at least 1 I-16 (may be it was typ 10) - Gejbo.

46. IAP had I-16s and I-153s fighters on 22.06.41.

BTW despite fighters Młynow was a base for reccon flight with 9 R-Zet of 27. OKAE plus next were several U-2 too.

These planes should be mentioned identified below doppeldeckers.


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According Luftwaffe losses list on 22.06.41 there are not in this data a plane with WNr. 2132? Could be WNr. 2140 (He 111 P-2)?


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Old 9th July 2012, 17:00
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Re: He 111s losses of KG 55 over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.41?

This is from a NVM:
1941-06-22, 7./KG 55, He 111P-2, 2132, Mlynów, Jägerbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
Bordmechaniker Ofw Neidel, Leonhard, verletzt
Also this:
1941-06-22, 7./KG 55, He 111P-2, 2140, G1+KR, Bei Olesko an der Straße Lemberg - Brody, Notlandung infolge Jägerbeschuß um 04.00 Uhr. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Dietrich, Willi (Zurück nach 10 Tage)
Beobachter Uffz Zantke, Siegfried (Zurück nach 10 Tage)
Bordfunker Gefr Waßmuth, Georg, +
Bordmechaniker Uffz Lonsinger, Georg, vermißt
Bordschütze Gefr Neumaier, Sebastian, vermißt

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Old 10th July 2012, 00:55
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Re: He 111s losses of KG 55 over Mlynov-Luck on 22.06.41?

Note that per the Gen.Qu. losses WNr. 2132 appears a week later as well.

He 111P-2, 2132, n.n., , III., III., KG 55, , , , , 01-Jul-41, Bruchlandung due to severe ground conditions., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Klemensow, 25%, F, , ,
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