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Old 1st June 2006, 17:01
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Further Luftwaffe losses over England 1941

Hi,
Have just received really useful information on Luftwaffe aircrew lost over England. Found out new way to find information myself.
Can anyone provide information onthe following two Luftwaffe aircrew lost over England?

1) Max Zieringer - Oberfeldwebel - lost on 11th May 1941 in a mission against England. Which unit, target, other crew, lost over sea/land etc


2) Ludwig Guftav (Prinz Biron von Curland) - Leutnant in a bomber squadron - lost on 11th April 1941. Which unit, target, other crew, lost over sea/land etc.

Thanks for your help. It is most interesting how you gather this information. I am just a beginner but keen.

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Old 1st June 2006, 17:43
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Re: Further Luftwaffe losses over England 1941

I only have basic info that Ltn. Prinz Biron Ludwig Gustav von Kurland was the pilot of a He 111 of 7/KG 55 shot down over the Channel on 10/11.04.1941, with target Birmingham.
Ofw. Max Zieringer was the Bm of a He 111 of 1/KG 53 killed during a raid on London I assume the aircraft returned, perhaps another researcher has more on thiis one.
Source for these were books on KG 53, and KG 55,
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Old 1st June 2006, 18:21
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Re: Further Luftwaffe losses over England 1941

Hi Rick

Welcome aboard. I am a relative newcomer to this site - it's the tops!

All I can offer is gleaned from Jack Foreman's 1941 Part 2 book:

von Kurland (he also spells it with a 'K') He111P2 (WkNr.1617) G1+LR

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Old 1st June 2006, 18:23
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Re: Further Luftwaffe losses over England 1941

Rick,

some websites that may be useful to you:

http://fishponds.org.uk/luftbri10.html has the list of German losses during raids on Bristol area

www.btinternet.com/~air_research/kg55loss.pdf list all KG 55 losses in the West (over England and elsewhere)

http://www.bpears.org.uk/NE-Diary/ is a diary of WWII on North-East England and will usually list the German aircraft crashing in this area and their crew.
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Re: Further Luftwaffe losses over England 1941

Many thanks for information and new leads.
Is there a losses record like the one posted for KG55 for KG53?
Have yet to find out much aboutMax Zieringer. He appears very interesting as he was awarded a Golden Spanish Cross for his efforts with the Legion Condor prior to World War II. Can anyone help?
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Re: Further Luftwaffe losses over England 1941

Hello,
Zieringer, born 19-9-1914 in Strassbourg, algo got the Spanish Breast Star, the spanish equivalent to EK1 so he saw considerable action in the spanish skies belonguing to the 1st Staffel of the Kampfgruppe 88.

The place of his death was Arras, France and buried at Bourdon. Block: 19, row: 10, Tomb: 355


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Old 6th July 2006, 12:17
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Re: Further Luftwaffe losses over England 1941

Interested in Luftwaffe losses over North East England? My BROKEN EAGLES books give full details of c. 150 aircraft losses, with details of cause, location, aircraft (type, unit, werk nummer), as well as complete alphabetic listing of all crew members. Full details on www.billnorman.co.uk
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