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Night fighter shot down by Airgunner JU52
This report was written by 2 transportfliegergeschwader 4
On the night of 29/August/1944 the crew of JU 52 G6+KR, oberleutnant Dorge and Feldwebel Frosch had a difficult air battle with a persistent night fighter. In the end the enemy plane a mosquito was shot down by Gefrieter Von Lorenz Airgunner. Apparently was flying from Heraklion to Athens, strange thing was they thought it was an American ??, and. was reported as such to German newspapers. I have looked into this but cannot find an aircraft brought down on this night, can anyone help solve this mystery ???. Lorenz was promoted to Unteroffizier for this and was killed end of January 1945 at Posen shot down by anti aircraft fire. Thanks Ben |
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Re: Night fighter shot down by Airgunner JU52
Ben,
Checked some 416th and 417th Night Fighter Squadron sites, and got no joy either with the loss of a machine (Beaufighter) or airmen on the night of 29th to 30th August 1944. Was it a daylight claim? If so, we must only consider the 29th August 1944. The Historian who may have the clue and answer for you is NICK BEALE. If we are dealing with a daylight claim, it may be probable that the machine was from a RAF Squadron. Have tried to find some registered losses at CGWC between the dates, but gave up at page 7 or 8....there are some 17 pages to look at, checking Squadrons, etc...perhaps a good stard? Cheerio Adriano |
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Thanks for the information. Yes it was definitely a night Attack apparently German Air Sea Rescue pulled an American SGT out of the water where he had been for almost forty hours and he confirmed the report that he had been shot down whilst attacking a ju52.
It is a mystery but was investigated and confirmed by the squadron as a kill. Just don't know if it was a mosquito for sure with an American SGT on board ? Perhaps a Canadian SGT ? Not sure but shall try the war graves. Hi Adriano checked Beaufighter losses for 30 August 603 SQN. Turns out that a Beaufighter NV213/5 was lost on a night intruder mission north of Crete crew comprised of a Canadian pilot F/O Soderland and Navigator FLT SGT Nichol both taken POW. So I reckon this was the one, based on the area of operations and the fact that there was a Canadian pilot flying the aircraft seems to fit the bill, what do you think ? Ben |
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Re: Night fighter shot down by Airgunner JU52
I don't think I would have anything on this, unfortunately.
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Re: Night fighter shot down by Airgunner JU52
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see here: http://aviationarchaeology.gr/wp-con...1941-19464.pdf But your identification of the aircraft seems spot on. Interview with Harold Soderlund in 2016 when he was 94 https://www.sootoday.com/local-news/...urvived-276007 Quote:
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Re: Night fighter shot down by Airgunner JU52
Am really happy to know that the mistery and identification of the Beaufighter (I really thought it was one) was found!
Thanks to all for solving the puzzle.... The 603 Squadron ORB would be of help too, I guess.... A. |
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Re: Night fighter shot down by Airgunner JU52
Longer presentation on Soderlund's life with a bit more detail about the night he was shot down:
http://www.clubrunner.ca/Data/6290%5...lund_Story.pdf |
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Re: Night fighter shot down by Airgunner JU52
Thank you so much for your help with the answers to my questions, what a great story and a great journey this man had, no wonder he never forgot any of the details.
Regards Ben |
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