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Re: Strange Luftwaffe Abbreviation
Horst W. wrote in part:
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However, "Gn" almost certainly has to do with the unit's transport capability or requirements, its weapons or its employment. Accordingly, your "guess" may be correct. Thanks! L. |
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Re: Strange Luftwaffe Abbreviation
gn=gezogen, i.e. by Sonderkraftfahrzeug (SdKfz) ; pick one of the many variants
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Re: Strange Luftwaffe Abbreviation
(v) at least today means "V-gestellt"= Verteidigungsfall gestellt. Which means the unit is only to be activated in war time. In peacetime the equipment is garaged and will be manned by core experienced career soldiers filled up with majority of peacetime trained reservists.
This is an important designator when unit will be employed/tasked with difficult missions.... |
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In documents of wartime flak units, (v) is always contrasted with (o) - ortsfest. (v) is therefore verlegbar or verlegefähig - capable of being moved, or towed. This is not to be confused with (mot.) - motorised. Flak units with a (v) designation had guns which were capable of being moved, but often these units did not in fact have prime movers, so they could not easily move to a different sector. On the other hand, ortsfest units were incapable of any movement, just as any other artillery equipped with guns on fixed mountings. Regards, Dan
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Dan H. wrote in part:
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L 2763 (1 Mar 38) Flak-Transport-Batterie (mot.) Had 3 officers, 1 official, 203 men with 7 cars, 10 motorcycles, 2 heavy motorcycles with sidecars, 9 light trucks, 44 medium trucks and 49 self-propelled prime movers (i.e., Hanomag halftracks of various size and weight). L. |
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On 1 March 1943 Luftgaukommando Rostov in the southern USSR had 8 Flaktransportbatterien, with a serviceability rating in both the vehicle (Kraftfahrzeugmäßig) and tactical (Taktisch) categories rated as 'voll' - fully serviceable. The same command had 15 batteries of 8,8 cm guns, of which 9 had a vehicle (Kraftfahrzeugmäßig) serviceability rating 'voll'. The other batteries had no rating in this category, niether 'bedingt' - limited serviceability, nor 'nicht' - unserviceable. The material (Materiell) serviceability ratings were 8 batteries 'voll' and the remaining 7 'bedingt'. Therefore all 15 batteries had at least some guns, and 9 of these batteries had a full complement of vehicles. This suggests to me that some flak batteries were provided with organic prime movers, while others, perhaps those further from the frontline, had to rely on the Flaktransportbatterien. It is also possible that a battery's complement of vehicles did not render it fully mobile without additional transport support from a Flaktransportbatterie, but I think that is less likely, since some batteries would have been expected to closely follow the movements of front-line units. Dan
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Dan H. wrote:
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So, Flaktransportbatterien could and did organically belong to Luftgau- and Feldluftgaukommandos, the Gen.Kdo. of a Flakkorps and, to a somewhat lesser extent, to a Flakdivision, but never to a Flakregiment. As the tactical situation dictated, the Flaktransportbatterien were frequently detached and reattached from one command level to another so they could perform their task. Example: Flak-Trsp.Battr. 96/VIII 16 May 42: (schwere) Sarabus/Crimea under Luftgaukdo. Rostow. (TsAMO 500/12476/Akte 2) 11 Jul 42: being allocated to 10. Flak-Div. (TsAMO 500/12476/Akte 13) 18 Apr 44: attached to 17. Flak-Div. in W Ukraine - ordered disbanded this date. (TsAMO 500/12476/Akte 3) 24 Aug 44: S Poland assigned to I. Flakkorps. (TsAMO 500/12476/Akte 70) L. |
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First, in military terms I would not speak of subordination but of different chain of commands or what you have outlined further below when you addressed attachments, assignments etc. From my experience there are only two levels existing, 1. Truppendienstliche Unterstellung (engl.:Administrative Control) and 2. Taktische Unterstellung. (engl.:tactical level of command) What you describe as administrative is subsumed under Truppendienstliche Unterstellung to which the tasks for logistic/ supplies belong to, or accommodation matters, medical and so on. This includes the civilian ranks who partially work in these domains and who report to the military commander. Disciplinary power of course falls also under the level term Truppendienstliche Unterstellung. This classification is standard through the command levels with variations. The higher the command, the more complex is the job description and distinct are changes to TOE ( different naming, like Quartiermeister for Div and Corps etc etc etc) Taktische Unterstellung can vary often and is dependent on the mission. That includes Luftwaffe Flak-units that may even be assigned to Army echelons. But -note- they always stay under their Luftwaffe Truppendienstliche Unterstellung- chain of command |
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Re: Strange Luftwaffe Abbreviation
Egbert wrote as a quote from Larry's entry of 5 February:
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