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Old 7th November 2012, 23:20
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Seeking original print for color photo of Bf109E-4 WNr 3744 SKZ CI+EG

Hello,

About 30 or so years ago this photo was published in the book: "Les Messerschmitt dans la Bataille D'Angleterre- Le Bf109E" P83 by Mister Kit & Michael W Payne.

http://ihra.smugmug.com/photos/i-fJN...-fJNHdQQ-S.jpg

This looks like a clear case of a dark/light gray camouflage scheme rather than the more traditional 71/02/65 color scheme. This photo probably dates to about August, 1940, and shows this a/c in the factory-delivered camouflage scheme.

For profiling purposes of other a/c in this production batch, I'm trying to determine if this printed photo represents the authentic colors on this a/c, or whether what appears here is due to color balance (or lack thereof) during the printing process. It even seems possible that this photo was colorized back during the war (or since). B & W versions of this photo have been published, which doesn't mean they weren't taken from an original color print.

Does anyone know the original source for this color photo, and whether the colors as printed are true or not?

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Old 8th November 2012, 04:18
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Re: Seeking original print for color photo of Bf109E-4 WNr 3744 SKZ CI+EG

A repro of this photo happens to be on ebay...does seem to have different colour balance...then again it is a photo of a photo, probably of a photo

http://www.ebay.de/itm/REPRO-FOTO-ME...item43b54dae0d
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Old 5th December 2012, 16:20
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Re: Seeking original print for color photo of Bf109E-4 WNr 3744 SKZ CI+EG

Here is the original on ebay (from a Luftwaffe Calendar).


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/WW2-German-Me...item35b38b797f
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Old 6th December 2012, 19:52
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Re: Seeking original print for color photo of Bf109E-4 WNr 3744 SKZ CI+EG

taitbb,

Thanx for calling my attention to this. Unfortunately, the seller want's way more than I can spend on this, but at least I know now where it came from. Since it's printed on a calendar, it raises the question of how reliable the color registration for subtle camouflage colors will really be.

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Old 6th December 2012, 21:31
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Re: Seeking original print for color photo of Bf109E-4 WNr 3744 SKZ CI+EG

Larry, this 109 was used in a propaganda photo shoot with a captured Spitfire.
bpk Archive in Berlin has all the images taken on that occasion.
Have a look here http://bpkgate.picturemaxx.com/previ...IMGID=00006015

Just search for Luftwaffe to view all the photos.
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Old 6th December 2012, 21:54
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Re: Seeking original print for color photo of Bf109E-4 WNr 3744 SKZ CI+EG

http://www.stammkennzeichen.de/ have this as WNr. 3744 ,and part of a WNr./stkz block which seems to confirm this? It is listed with E-Stelle Rechlin in Aug 1940. They also have a fairly large version of one of the bw pics.

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...sorry I got confused here the earlier post stated CI+EG, (which is WNr.3741). The photo is clearly of CI+EJ
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