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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Steve,
Thanks for that additional name. As for the Australian aircrew, I'm sure that there were more involved, but as you say most ORB's aren't too detailed when it comes to identifying the nationalalities of the pilots. Hopefully an Australian expert out there could give me some more information? Well I've been researching the operation for the past six years, so hopefully a book will arrive at the end, but I'll have to get some interest from a publisher first! Thanks again, Regards Steve |
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
A few comments.
S/L Jan Eugeniusz Ludwik Zumbach is missing from the list. Skalski at the time was A/S/L, being promoted to S/L in 1943. I have had access to his personal files, so I could have check it, contrary to the other airmen on the list. Sobanski of Polish nationality and citizenship was at the time with RCAF, later transferred to USAAF and KIA 6/6/1944. |
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Franek,
Thanks for your comments; S/Ldr Zumbach is on the list as C/O of 303 Sqn, but I'll amend his rank as A/S/Ldr. I'll also note Sgt Sobanski's later death. Do you know what unit he was serving with at the time of his death? Regards Steve |
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Steve, I do not know if Zumbach was A/S/L or S/L at the time. Skalski definetelly was. Sobanski died as O.C. 334 FS 4 FG.
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Franek,
Thanks for that. I see on the ABMC site that he's buried under the name Winslow Michael Sobanski. Regards, Steve |
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Steve,
I have quickly run through the list and can add the following details about Australians/RAAF fighter pilots. There may be more, however, this will take a little more time. 41 Sqn RAF William Michael Coombes 41 Sqn RAF, 452 Sqn RAAF Jeffrey Cecil King - 41 Sqn RAF, 452 Sqn RAAF 43 Sqn RAF Edgar Trenchard Smith (RAAF 404606) - 43 Sqn RAF Godfrey Massey Ball (RAAF 404227) 43 Sqn RAF, 531 Sqn RAF Peter John Hedderwick (RAAF 401950) 43 Sqn RAF killed 08 Feb 45 Ross William Leeming (RAAF 410975) 43 Sqn RAF, ? 65 Sqn RAF Robert Leopold Cunningham (RAAF 402493) 65 Sqn RAF, 501 Sqn RAF, 457 Sqn RAAF 66 Sqn RAF Kevin Milne Barclay (RAAF 407662) 79 Sqn RAF, 66 Sqn RAF, 453 Sqn RAAF, 457 Sqn RAAF, 452 Sqn RAAF 87 Sqn RAF Bob Bawden (RAAF 403306) 87 Sqn RAF, 533 Sqn RAF, 457 Sqn RAAF 91 Sqn RAF Thomas Otto Omdahl (RAAF 404412) 91 Sqn RAF, ? 111 Sqn RAF Barry Edward Gale DFC (RAAF 401116) - 111 Sqn RAF, 124 Sqn RAF, 165 Sqn RAF Harold David Christian (RAAF 400779) 111 Sqn RAF 129 Sqn RAF Edward Smith Hall (RAAF 403013) 129 Sqn RAF, 452 Sqn RAAF Ernest Arthur Roy Esau DFC (RAAF 405473) 129 Sqn RAF, 453 Sqn RAAF 131 Sqn RAF Alfred Vincent Noel Ede (RAAF 405302) 167 Sqn RAF, 131 Sqn RAF, 133 Sqn RAF, 131 Sqn RAF, 457 Sqn RAAF Anthony Thomas Ruskin-Rowe (RAAF 411389) 131 Sqn RAF, 452 Sqn RAAF KIA 20 Jun 43 174 Sqn RAF Charles Bryce Watson (RAAF 400849) 607 Sqn RAF, 174 Sqn RAF 175 Sqn RAF Donald George Andrews DFC (RAAF 404795) 615 Sqn RAF, 245 Sqn RAF, 175 Sqn RAF, 453 Sqn RAAF 222 Sqn RAF John William McDonald (RAAF 404971) 72 Sqn RAF, temp 222 Sqn RAF, ?, 72 Sqn RAF KIA 05 Dec 42 Alan Roy Menzies (RAAF 403676) 72 Sqn RAF, temp 222 Sqn RAF, ?, 453 Sqn RAAF killed in a/c collision 05 Dec 42 232 Sqn RAF Jack Martin Kirkman (RAAF 406017) - ?, 232 Sqn RAF, 64 Sqn RAF, 1435 Sqn RAF, 603 Sqn RAF? - POW 245 Sqn RAF William Robert Kilpatrick (RAAF 400718) 245 Sqn RAF, ?, 184 Sqn RAF KIA 31 Jul 43 253 Sqn RAF Richard Owen Lloyd (RAAF 401979) 253 Sqn RAF, 538 Sqn RAF, 56 Sqn RAF, 238 Sqn RAF, 127 Sqn RAF killed 03 Nov 44 501 Sqn RAF Granville Allan Mawer (RAAF 403112) 245 Sqn RAF, 501 Sqn RAF, 54 Sqn RAF, 452 Sqn RAAF killed 26 Sept 43 610 Sqn RAF Southwood Carson Creagh (RAAF 405123) 610 Sqn RAF, 452 Sqn RAAF 611 Sqn RAF Robert Gordon Kleimeyer DFC (Australian in RNZAF 411985) 616 Sqn RAF Frederick Owen Anthony Gaze DFC (Australian in RAF 60167) 610 Sqn RAF, 616 Sqn RAF, 64 Sqn RAF, 129 Sqn RAF, 41 Sqn RAF, 616 Sqn RAF John Harold Smithson DFC (RAAF 401252) 616 Sqn RAF, 457 Sqn RAAF A possible explanation for why there were few RAAF pilots in UK based RAF squadrons during August 1942....... Many experienced Australian fighter pilots had been recalled home earlier in the year to defend against the Japanese. Most were filtered into 75 & 76 Sqns RAAF and were fighting at Milne Bay in August. In June of the same year 452 & 457 Sqns had also been requested to return home and defend the Northern coastline eventually forming No.1 Spitfire Wing with 54 Sqn RAF. Meanwhile there were still three Australian manned fighter squadrons in the Middle East 3 Sqn RAAF, 450 & 451 Sqs. During the Dieppe raids the sole remaining Australian equipped day-fighter unit in the UK was 453 Sqn which was in the process of working up. All these movements may help explain why there were relatively few Australians attached to RAF squadrons during Operation Jubilee. regards, Drew |
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Drew,
Thanks for those. With regard to 453 Sqn, by default they did have a link to the Dieppe raid. It is noted in the ORB that due 'to the fact that a large number of the squadrons aircraft were lent to 222 Sqn for use at Dieppe' they carried out little flying between the 15th and 20th August. The loan aircraft (number not identified) were not returned until the 23rd. Regards, Steve |
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Steve,
Sgt E.J. Shaw of No. 485 (NZ) Squadron was Eric James Shaw DFC Cheers Dave |
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Dave,
Thanks for that, can you confirm he was a New Zealander? Regards, Steve |
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Re: Operation Jubilee aircrew list
Hi Steve,
A few more RAAF pilots..... 65 Sqn RAF probably - George Robson Gratwick Sarll (RAAF 267930) ?, 65 Sqn RAF, ? 87 Sqn RAF Michael Stanley Lewis (RAAF 400832) 79 Sqn RAF, 87 Sqn RAF, 1454 Flt RAF, 87 Sqn RAF, 32 Sqn RAF, 85 Sqn RAAF Richard Venor Beckwith Dulhunty (RAAF 404959) ?, 87 Sqn RAF, ?, 132 Sqn RAF 174 Sqn RAF probably - William Henry Moore (RAAF 405114) ?, 174 Sqn RAF?, ?, 3 Sqn RAF KIA 18 Jun 43 regards, Drew |
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