Bf.109E-3 (wnr. 1512); Bf. 109E- (?) (wnr.2312)

[Andreas Brekken]

Hello.

I also have the following loss record for 1512:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=148895

So it seems it was converted to E-7 standard and used in Africa after the incident while in JG 1:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=128239

Regards,
Andreas B

[bill norman]

Thank you, Andreas.
Bill

[bill norman]

Anreas,
Do you know when 1512 arrived in N.Africa and how long it was there?

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

No, I do not - the only thing I know is that it is not on the list of aircraft that were initially set up for trop conversion for the campaign in North Africa.

I am currently working on this list for publication - just a few details to add.

I do not know if it is of interest to anyone - but this list is in effect a roster of all the Bf 109 assigned to I./JG 27 at the time of departure for North Africa.

Regards,
Andreas B

[Rasmussen]

Is this the BA-MA list?

Greetings
Rasmussen

[Andreas Brekken]

Hello.

It originates from BA/MA, yes.

Regards,
Andreas B

[Mr Schmitt]

Originally Posted by RolandF

WNr 1512, ER+GW, Bf 109E-3, Bf 109E-4, schw 6 +, 1./JG 1, Fw Georg Herrmann~, 18.06.41 Bauchlandung 40% n Motorschaden b Bergen-op-Zoom/NL

Hi Roland F, Fascinating information and great reading. I have looked at the links that Andreas Brekken provides and it states the Pilot as Fw Hermann, Friedrich. Do you have the full name of this Pilot as your post says Fw Georg Hermann? In addition Andreas Brekken states the location as Flug PLatz Bergen in his link, not Bergen Op Zoom. Please can you help clarify this. Thank you. :-)

[RolandF]

My info comes from Prien´s JFV 5 p.37. Bergen-op-Zoom, as listed there, is most likely because I./JG 1 was operating from Dutch airfields. Same goes for 1st name "Georg".

[Mr Schmitt]

Originally Posted by christian

Hi

The 1512 was in Oktober 1940 by the E.Staffel/JG 54 in Bergen.

Greetins Christian

Hi Christian,

From the last post by Roland F, there seems to be some mix up as to the location of wnr. 1512 (Bergen Op Zoom seems to be getting mixed up with Bergen Norway). Please can you clarify your information? Thanks

[Mr Schmitt]

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken

Hello.

I also have the following loss record for 1512:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=148895

So it seems it was converted to E-7 standard and used in Africa after the incident while in JG 1:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=128239

Regards,
Andreas B

Hi Andreas,

Great information with regards to wnr.1512 But if you read the last posts by Roland F and Christian, there seems to be some confusion between 1JG1 Bergen Op Zoom NL and JG54 Bergen Norway during 1940/41
Would you have any actual confirmation of the location via a copy of Luftwaffe actual documents?

There is a statement that Prien's book is referenced in this, but not sure where does Prien get his information? It would be interesting to know.

It would be good to clear this confusion. Many Thanks