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Pilot of Ju 88G-6, WNr 620132 '4R+OR' on 31.12.1944
Hi.
Has anyone got the name of the pilot of this aircraft lost on this date? He must either have been killed, wouded or have returned, as he is not on the missing list in the aircraft loss record. Regards, Andreas |
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Re: Pilot of Ju 88G-6, WNr 620132 '4R+OR' on 31.12.1944
The pilot was Hptm. Alfred Kühn. He may have returned with the a/c and that this a/c actually did not crash. All other three crewmembers (Seidel, Hoferichter and Schwartz) baled out over Allied territory (near Venlo) and ended up as POW's. Seidel and Schwartz were injured. The a/c and crew belonged to 7./NJG 2. Sources: RL2-III-1171/a and ADI(K) No. 69/1945. I believe Hptm. Alfred Kühn was later killed in April 1945 over Holland, but i have to check my files for that.
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Re: Pilot of Ju 88G-6, WNr 620132 '4R+OR' on 31.12.1944
Hi, John!
Thanks a lot for the additional information. I have included it in the loss report, pls see the updated report at: http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_public.asp?lossid=4576 Regards, Andreas |
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Re: Pilot of Ju 88G-6, WNr 620132 '4R+OR' on 31.12.1944
Just following up on this "old" case. Does anybody have information that this Ju 88 WNr. 620132 returned to base after 3 men of the the crew baled out and became POW? It is certain that Hptm. Alfred Kühn returned to base. But did he with his a/c or do he bail out too????
John Last edited by John Manrho; 13th January 2021 at 23:05. Reason: Typos and adding info |
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Re: Pilot of Ju 88G-6, WNr 620132 '4R+OR' on 31.12.1944
Hi John,
the only clue I can offer is from ULTRA - if the entry is correct regarding W.Nr. CX/MSS/R.436/A/71 simply states 620132 was at Stade on 14/1/45. The entry reads (the rows here appear as columns in the original document): 14.1 621897 621955 Ju.88 G6 Stade 14.1 621793 621800 621181 620132 Ju.88 G6 Stade If correct, presumably Hptm. Kühn didn't bale out, otherwise the Ju88 would likely have been destroyed. Cheers Rod PS - from the late-war ADI(K) Reports, here are other night fighters that didn't actually crash in Allied territory after crew baled out behind Allied lines. All the pilots concerned returned to their units: ADI(K) Report No. 12/1945 18/12/44 8./NJG2 Ju88G-6 4R+MS Pilot: Fw. Rudolf Haupt ADI(K) Report No. 15/1945 24/12/44 3./NJG4 Ju88G-1 714523 3C+RL Pilot: Uffz. Theo Reche ADI(K) Report No. 21/1945 25/12/44 7./NJG4 Ju88G-1 712224 3C+SR Pilot: Ofw. Otto Lechner ADI(K) Report No. 26/1945 27/12/44 4./NJG3 Ju88G-1 714649 D5+AM Pilot: Fw. Bruno Rupp ADI(K) Report No. 266/1945 26/03/45 7./NJG3 Ju88G-6 D5+AR Pilot: Oblt. Wolf Träger |
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Re: Pilot of Ju 88G-6, WNr 620132 '4R+OR' on 31.12.1944
Thanks Rod, I think that is a clear indication that the a/c returned. Unfortunately the relatives of Hptm. Kühn have no documents at all.
Regards, john |
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