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Old 30th July 2010, 14:31
Ferreira Ferreira is offline
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Oblt. Erich Jung, 5./NJG 2

Hi,

I'm looking for biographic information about Oblt. Erich Jung, Staffelführer of 5./NJG 2. All I know is that he had 28 victories during the war, including eight Lancaster on the night of 16-17 March, 1945.

He flew the Ju 88G6 4R+AN (Wnr 620045), and his crew was composed by Fw. Walter Heidenreich (Bf) and Stfw. Hans Reinnagel (Bm).

Is it correct? Any info about his career will be welcomed.

Pictures are also wanted!

Cheers,

Franklin
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Old 30th July 2010, 17:19
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Re: Oblt. Erich Jung, 5./NJG 2

A search of our files reveals only:

JUNG, Erich. (DOB: 17.12.09 in Neuruppin). 01.04.43 promo to Hptm. (Kr.O.). 10.44 Hptm. and Techn.Offz. in I./JG 2.

This does not appear the guy you want. However, a search of the Kracker Archive shows:

Jung, Erich. Maj. 30victories total - Kdr I/NJG-2 (11/41), Kdr II/ZG-101 (3/43), 6/NJG-2 (12/43), 5/NJG-2, Kdr III/NJG-2 (5/45)Ju 88C; Do 17Z-10 "R4 + AK" (10/40); Ju 88R-2 "R4+AP" and Ju 88G-6 "R4+AN" in NJG-2(3/45)DK-G, EP, EK 1 & 2, Night Fighter Operational ClaspIn March, 1945, Jung scored 7 victories in 20 minutes and an 8th shortly thereafter. His crew was R/O Uffz Walter Heidenreich and Mech Ofw Hans (Heinz) Reinnagel. They flew in "4R+AN" Werk # 620045. Their last mission was 16 March, 1945, and on 25 March, 1945, Werk # 620045 was blown up as U.S. gliders were landing on their airfield at Zellhausen. One known victory, a Lancaster at Ober-Sayn on 24 December, 1943. Another, a Lancaster at Epinal on 28 April, 1944. A Lancaster in the Brussels area on 28 May, 1944. Two "4 mot's" in the Dieppe-Abbeville area on 25 June, 1944. Two "4 mot's" over northern France, in the Bourges area, on 5 July, 1944. A 3rd "4 mot", same day, N or Paris. Two "4 mots" at St Leu on 8 July, 1944. An 11th, a "4 mot" SE of Orleans on 25 July, 1944. A 12th, a P-38 in the Blechhammer area on 7 August, 1944. Magnus, 30 victories.
.Do you suppose that this could be the same fellow?

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Old 30th July 2010, 19:34
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Re: Oblt. Erich Jung, 5./NJG 2

Hi Douglas

Thank's for the input.

According to my research, there were two different Jung on Nachtjagdwaffe.

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Jung, Erich. Maj. 30victories total - Kdr I/NJG-2 (11/41), Kdr II/ZG-101 (3/43), 6/NJG-2 (12/43), 5/NJG-2, Kdr III/NJG-2 (5/45)Ju 88C; Do 17Z-10 "R4 + AK" (10/40);
I'm looking for information about this here:

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Ju 88R-2 "R4+AP" and Ju 88G-6 "R4+AN" in NJG-2(3/45)DK-G, EP, EK 1 & 2, Night Fighter Operational ClaspIn March, 1945, Jung scored 7 victories in 20 minutes and an 8th shortly thereafter. His crew was R/O Uffz Walter Heidenreich and Mech Ofw Hans (Heinz) Reinnagel. They flew in "4R+AN" Werk # 620045. Their last mission was 16 March, 1945, and on 25 March, 1945, Werk # 620045 was blown up as U.S. gliders were landing on their airfield at Zellhausen. One known victory, a Lancaster at Ober-Sayn on 24 December, 1943. Another, a Lancaster at Epinal on 28 April, 1944. A Lancaster in the Brussels area on 28 May, 1944. Two "4 mot's" in the Dieppe-Abbeville area on 25 June, 1944. Two "4 mot's" over northern France, in the Bourges area, on 5 July, 1944. A 3rd "4 mot", same day, N or Paris. Two "4 mots" at St Leu on 8 July, 1944. An 11th, a "4 mot" SE of Orleans on 25 July, 1944.

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Franklin

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Old 31st July 2010, 04:52
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Re: Oblt. Erich Jung, 5./NJG 2

Franklin,

The information Doug sites regarding "Erich Jung" appears to be an amalgam of more than one individual, including Maj. Rolf Jung who was in turn Staffelkapitän of 2./NJG 2 from Oct. 1940, then the Kommandeur of I./NJG 2 from Nov. 1941 until the end of 1943. During this time he made a total of 3 claims. He may have then gone to NJG 101. However the name "Rudolf Jung" appears to be associated with the Kommadeure of III. and finally I./NJG 101.

Details of all 28 claims of Oblt. Erich Jung of II./NJG 2 can be found in Theo Boiten's 2 volume Nachtjagd War Diaries. Further info, including a photo of Jung and his crew, can be found in Peter Hinchliffe's The Other Battle: Luftwaffe Night Aces versus Bomber Command. Apparently he was awarded the Deutsches Kreuz in Gold sometime during 1945. Otherwise there is not much of a biographical nature to be found.

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Old 31st July 2010, 14:41
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Re: Oblt. Erich Jung, 5./NJG 2

The last mission of the Jung crew was the night of 20/21 April 1945. The last mission with the 4R+AN was the 14 April 1945. He also flew the 4R+LN and 4R+DM in the last days.

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Old 31st July 2010, 16:20
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Re: Oblt. Erich Jung, 5./NJG 2

It appears that Tom Semenza's comments are well founded. From our files we have:

JUNG, Rolf. 26.06.41? Oblt., appt Staka 2./NJG 2 (to 01.11.41). 01.11.41 Hptm., appt Kdr. I./NJG 2 (to 12.43) 01.42 Hptm., Staka 4./NJG 2. 07.09.42 Hptm., awarded Ehrenpokal. 31.08.44 Maj., appt Kdr. III./NJG 101.

JUNG, Rudolf. (DOB: 10.03.12). 08.40 Staka 2./JG 2. 01.12.41 Hptm., appt Kdr. I./NJG 2 (to 01.12.43). 01.03.43 Kdr. I./NJG 2, promo to Maj. 07.02.44 appt Ia op ˝. Jagddivision. 31.08.44 Maj., appt Kdr. III./NJG 101 (to 19.10.44). 20.10.44 Maj., appt Kdr. I./NJG 101 (to 15.03.45).


It appears that our Erich Jung data applies to one fellow who apparently had nothing to do with the night fighters. The Kracker material does appear to be a combination of Rolf and Rudolf Jung. A compilation of commanders of NJG 2 would have revealed this. I am currently attempting to do just that and may post the results later.


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Old 2nd August 2010, 22:16
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Re: Oblt. Erich Jung, 5./NJG 2

Hi all,

Thank you all for the great information and the recommendation of The Other Battle: Luftwaffe Night Aces versus Bomber Command.

Cheers,
Franklin
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Old 3rd August 2010, 17:40
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Re: Oblt. Erich Jung, 5./NJG 2

Hello,

I remember that some profiles of "his" aircraft were published in the past, however I haven't seen any photos which could confirm them - were any photos of aircraft known to be flown by Jung ever published?

Best regards,
MG
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