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Old 23rd September 2018, 21:34
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Re: Air battle over East Prussia in October 1944

Thanks for the comment, Laurent. It’s a convincing argument in favor of the fact that the long-nosed Fw-190 could appear in the reports before their real appearance on east front.

I continue to dig the topic and collected 1st Air Army VVS OOB on starting of the Invasion into East Prussia. Tried to put it in this thread, but probably did not pass the moderation. Obviously this information is more for the branch of the Allied and Soviet Air Forces. Do you think it makes sense to create one more topic on the East Prussian operation in that branch? Or, maybe this information is not very interesting?
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Old 9th October 2018, 10:40
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Re: Air battle over East Prussia in October 1944

Good day, everyone!
I have coulpe of questions about docs, cause of my lack of German.
In attached doc, “Eingesetze Shlachtflufzeuge 76“ means that 76 sorties were made by ground-attack planes or 76 ground-attack planes were used? I think that first suggestion is correct, but I want be sure.
And second question is what stabsstaffel on Fw 190 could be meant (between III./ JG 51 and III./ JG 52). JG 52’s stakas were flying Bf 109 I believ…
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Old 9th October 2018, 22:07
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Re: Air battle over East Prussia in October 1944

ZhekaB -

44 Fw 190 3 Einsätze
[44 Fw 190s dispatched on a total of 3 operations or missions.]

Eingesetze Schlachtflugze 76
(A total of 76 ground-attack aircraft sorties were dispatched.]

If I understand your question correctly, there were no Fw 190s in either JG 51 or JG 52 in October 1944. They were equipped with the Bf 109 G-6, although Geschwaderstab JG 52 also had a couple of Bf 109 G-14s. This is according to the Luftwaffe document:
Flugzeugbestand und Bewegungsmeldungen, 3.42 - 12.44.

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Old 9th October 2018, 22:27
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Re: Air battle over East Prussia in October 1944

Thank you Larry, the first question is clear.
The second question was about Stabsstaffel on Fw 190 (mentioned in document) which made 24 sorties on 8 missions to cover sea district of Memel. So it is suposed that they were from JG stabstaffel? From which one it could be? I dont know any on Fw 190 in that region that period of time. Could they be from SG? Do schlachtgrupp execute cover or escort missions?
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Old 9th October 2018, 22:34
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Re: Air battle over East Prussia in October 1944

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And second question is what stabsstaffel on Fw 190 could be meant (between III./ JG 51 and III./ JG 52). JG 52’s stakas were flying Bf 109 I believ…
Stabstaffel JG51 used the FW190

https://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bstjg51.html

Do not confused with Stab/JG51
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Old 9th October 2018, 23:02
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Re: Air battle over East Prussia in October 1944



Sorry! I did not scroll down far enough.

https://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bstjg51.html

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Old 9th October 2018, 23:23
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Re: Air battle over East Prussia in October 1944

So did I ))
Thank you kalender
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