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Old 4th October 2018, 12:53
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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

Good morning Johannes,

the list blossoms well, thanks for posting.
Could you use the weight of your name to request if Mr Lorant would be so kind to unveil the dates and/or the plane types shot down for the missing period ?

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Hello Johannes,

Great XLS-list! Thanks for sharing this!

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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

Hi,

Johannes thank you for sharing this and others victories list
A little doubt, in your post Dahl claims a Mustang on 16.03.1945 , but it's not on the list, possible date error on 4.03.1945 (instead of 16.03.1945) claim for a Mustang, same time 11,55?

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Old 6th October 2018, 12:28
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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

Hi Allesandro

Mustang on 4th March 1155 hrs
Lightning on 16th March 1100 hrs

Both witnessed by Werner Meyer(Stab JG300)

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Old 6th October 2018, 14:12
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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

I don't have the information on claims 92-103 or with unconfirmed 105-116. But number 91 was achieved on 29th March 1945 and number 104 on 12th April 1945. Dahl himself states 100th on 16th March 1945(mustang) at 1156 hrs, but as I say I counted thirteen of his 133 as unconfirmed. Dahl states he was flying a Fw190, but supposedly his wingman Werner Bohnenkamp would be flying possibly a Ta152.


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Thank you Johannes,

both are in your list, but my doubt is related to the above sentence

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Old 8th October 2018, 12:37
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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

Hi Alessandro

List states 16th March 1945 was a Lightning.

I did flick through Dahl's book, and found that Walter Loos was the witness to his first JG300 claim on 7th July 1944. I wonder if anybody has a copy of Loos's flugbuch? Sometimes a pilots mentions witnessing claims. According to Obermeier's Ritterkreuz book Loos claims nine Russian aircraft with Jg301 during 1945, I suspect they were with Stab./JG300 and with Dahl, and probably on the same days that Dahl claims.
If dahl was running some kind of scheme with Loos, then Loos would be wanting some form of reward. Easiest situation to do this is if your with the Stab, usually only flying as a group of 2,3 or 4. Guess also it would have to be the highest ranking person making the suggestion.

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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

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… number 91 was achieved on 29th March 1945 and number 104 on 12th April 1945.

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14 victories in 15 days at that stage of the war? Remarkable if true.
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Old 8th October 2018, 15:56
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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

Good morning Johannes,

shouldn't we spell Dahl's given name with an "h" ?
https://www.google.de/search?biw=163...=1539003246596
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Old 8th October 2018, 16:43
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Hello Johannes

I looked at the new list of Dahl's claims you completed with the Leistungsbuch pages I posted some time ago on this site. Sorry, it is a precise but inaccurate work. I will allow myself two remarks that could help you to be historically credible. There was never a Leutnant Meyer in Stab./JG 300 in 1945 (he was probably in GdF Stab) and Dahl was no longer part of Stab./JG 300 since his appointment as Inspekteur der Tagjäger. The mechanic Alfred Rademacher and the two pilots of Stab./JG 300 I questioned about this were formal. If Dahl had made so many sorties with his old wingmen, it would not have gone unnoticed. As Nick Beale quite rightly said 14 aerial victories in two weeks at that stage of the war is truly prodigious. It is even more so if you are researching allied losses at the places and dates given by Walther Dahl.
It would be interesting to know if the Flugbuch in possession of Russ Fahey also covers this period of Dahl's career. By giving us the places, times of takeoffs and landings, this would bring more credibility to this amazing score.

The Flugbuch of Walther Loos is sadly not 100% reliable. For the last missions of 1945 there are surcharges with a different writing. No comments...

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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

The claims for 27 to 30th April for B-17s are suspect as the 8th AF had already done its last mission and the 15th AF was grounded for four days due to bad weather

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