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QU+PN fake or real
Dear Members
In the German magazin "Klassiker der Luftfahrt 1-2007 from Flug Revue is a drawing of a Me323 E-1 with QU+PN .I can't find it in Schiffers Me321/323 book. I doubt if it is a real stammkennzeichen. reagards Peter van Gogh |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
Hi Peter,
this could be real. There is a rather grainy print of an in-flight "Me 323 E-3" on page 37 of "Messerschmitt ME 321/323 Giants of the Luftwaffe", by H. Dabrowski. It appears to have the code QU+PD or QU+PO under the wings (I'd bet on the former). Your reference may be another in this sequence. Cheers GrahamB |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
Thanks Graham
Regards Peter van Gogh |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
Hello
It doesn't give a skz, beginning with letter "Q". Thats all reading-faults. I have found Me 323 E-1 with skz DU + PA - DU + PO in my skz-list. I think, that's what you search. JoMe |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
Hi JoMe
Whats the source of Your Me323 E-1 stkfz. And are you sure about that the Q neverwas used. I have seen a picture of a He219 A-7 in this book "Warplanes of the Luftwaffe Combat aircraft of Hitlers luftwaffe 1939-1945" D.Donald Barness & Noble books with reg. on the side QT+NY. In the stkfz list I make for Peter Evans I have some 16 other stkfz also beginning with a Q. Regards Peter van Gogh |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
Hi peter
The Stkz for the Me 323E-1 DU+PA to PO; W/Nr.130041 to 130055 Regarding the use of Q in the Stkz sequences is a mistake/typos/errors and for the He 219 a postwar addition to an original foto/painting of that a/c.(I think? I cannot get to my books at present but I have seen something very similar) The letter O was used as a simplified use of the pre-war civil regs. I have many fotos of the use of E & O for early & mid 1940 and at least 1 as late as 1944 Can you give a list of your Qs and i will try and give you possible corrections or answers Regards Tom Willis |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
Tom,
Are you sure about the "Q"not being used? In Focke Wulf, by Rodeike, page 258 there is a picture of VQ+VC, Fw190A7 642545. I also found: BH+QQ 1478 Ju88A4 GA+QQ 10200023 He177V102 GQ+QN 190 Ar196 NN+QQ 535550 He177V101 NQ+MQ 110619 Me262A-1a RQ+QN 131300 Ju52/3m8ge If you are right I have made a lot of typing errors. Dennis |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
All the Q?+?? codes mentioned by Peter can be found as part of the LEMB Sktz Database Project, a direct to link to which can be found below:
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/stam-q.html As for a He219A-7 coded QT+NY, there is nothing listed that is anywhere near this in the "Other Known Werknummern or Signs" of "Heinkel He219, An Illustrated History" by Roland Remp [Schiffer, 2000]. The image in "Luftwaffe Combat Aircraft of Hitlers luftwaffe 1939-1945" appears to be a heavily retouched wartime photo... Kind regards, Peter D Evans LEMB Administrator |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
Hi Dennis
I think you have the wrong end of the stick. I should have made it clear that the Q is the lead letter. eg: QU+PN as in the title 'QU+PN fake or real' The letter Q was used in all other sequence letters; 2nd, 3rd & 4th Hope this makes it clear Regards Tom Willis |
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Re: QU+PN fake or real
Ok Tom,
I get it now. Dennis |
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