KG30 losses - 15 Aug & 9 Sept 1940

[James Farrimond]

Gentleman

Does anyone have Gen.Qu.6 loss reports for the KG30 machines lost on 15 August during raid on Church Fenton//Leconfield and the five machines lost during raid on London docks on 9th September 1940?

Be much appreciated

Regards

James

[edNorth]

.... Ju 88 A-5 3./KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) missing (100%) <at> Flambourough Head 15.08.1940 (Four crew mis : in unk amd later)
(35v18.08.40)

.... Ju 88 A /C I/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location 15.08.1940 (Crew not given - 36v18.08.40)

.... Ju 88 A /C I/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location 15.08.1940 (Crew not given - 37v18.08.40)

8048 Ju 88 A /C [4D+DR] III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location (amd as: Driffield) 15.08.1940 (Oblt. Bachmann and three missing; in LWFLV losses 38v18.08.40 - amd in c/19.08.40 has 7./KG 30 (100%) Driffield (Oblt. Bachmann and three mis))

.... Ju 88 A /C III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location (amd: East Coast of England 15.08.1940 (39v18.08.40 -
amd d/19.08.40 : 7./KG 30 mis (100%) east cost of England (Lt. Riede and three missing)

.... Ju 88 A /C III/KG 30 (Luftlotte 5)
OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location amd: Driffield 15.08.1940 (LWFLV losses 40v18.08.40 - amd e/19.08.40 : 7./KG 30 mis (100%) Driffield (four crew missing))

.... Ju 88 A /C III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) crash landed (45%) unk location (amd: force landed Holland 15.08.1940 (one injured: BS Heinz Przygodda inj) (LWFLV losses 41v18.08.40, amd a/19.08.40 has: 8./KG 30 Force landed in Holland, 1 injured)

.... Ju 88 A /C III/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) damaged by fighter fire and crash landed (75%) at Aalborg-West Airfield 15.08.1940 (no crew injuries) [Fw. Siegfried Matschke and crew injured] (LWFLV 42v18.08.40, amd b/19.08.40 : 8./KG 30 - Damaged by fighter fire and force land (75%) at Aalborg-West Airfield, no inj)

.... Ju 88 [4D+DM] 4./KG 30 (Luftflotte 5)
OPS (F) missing (100%) <at> Driffield [crashed and burned at Alburn Farm, Faistthorpe, near Bridlington] 15.08.1940 (four crew missing; amd two killed, two missing (l/25.09.40), LWFLV losses 14v19.08.40)

[James Farrimond]

Thanks Ed

Anyone know anything about 9th September?

[James Farrimond]

Any AI g or k reports result from these?

[Chris Goss]

Suggest you get the relevant Luftwaffe Crash Archive books which will give you much of what you seek. Failing that Battle of Britain Then & Now? I should also say that the next but one Battle of Britain Combat book from Simon Parry et al will cover 15 Aug 40 in some detail

[James Farrimond]

Thanks Chris

Wasn't aware of Simon Parry's books. Looks like Volume 3 is out in January

[Peter Cornwell]

I currently have the following losses listed on 15 August 1940:


I./KG30 Junkers Ju88A. Failed to return from attack on Driffield and combat with fighters 1.30 p.m. No crew casualties recorded. Aircraft 100% write-off.

I./KG30 Junkers Ju88A. Failed to return from attack on Driffield and combat with fighters 1.30 p.m. No crew casualties recorded. Aircraft 100% write-off.
No further information was documented on the above two losses and it is possible that they are subject of incorrect reporting.

2./KG30 Junkers Ju88A. Landed at Oldenburg damaged by fighters during sortie to attack Driffield 1.30 p.m. Fw [ ] Stepukat, Uffz [ ] Scheiter, Gefr [ ] Lohmann, and Gefr [ ] Schönheber all unhurt. Aircraft 4D+KK damage state not recorded.

3./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-5. Shot down by Sgt A.L. McNay of No.73 Squadron during sortie to bomb Driffield and belly-landed at Hamilton Hill Farm, Barmston, south of Bridlington, 1.25 p.m. Harried by Sgt J. Hopewell of No.616 Squadron during landing. FF Uffz Ludwig von Lorentz, BO Uffz Heinrich Kenski, BF Obergefr Heinrich Prumann, and BS Gefr Johann Göbel all captured unhurt. Aircraft 4D+KL fired by crew 100% write-off.
Propeller blade, Junkers engine plate, and various other labels souvenired at the time, donated to Norfolk and Suffolk Aviation Museum at Flixton.

4./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-5. Belly-landed at Oldenburg airfield damaged by fighters during sortie to attack Driffield 1.30 p.m. No crew casualties. Aircraft 40% damaged but repairable.
One of a number of 4./KG30 aircraft attached to 7. and 8./KG30 the previous evening in order to bolster the attack.

4./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-5. Shot down by P/O D.S. Scott of No.73 Squadron during sortie to attack Driffield and crashed and exploded at Alburn Farm, Fraisthorpe, south of Bridlington, 1.30 p.m. FF Fw Rudolf Bihr, BO Fw Robert Pohl, BF Uffz Severin-Günther Kürsch, and BS Uffz Arnulf-Georg Neumeyer all killed. Aircraft 4D+DM 100% write-off.
Due to the severity of the crash only Robert Pohl and Severin Kürsch could be identified on their burial in Bridlington Borough Cemetery, the remains of Arnulf Neumeyer and Rudolf Bihr both being buried there as 'Unknown' and later re-interred as such in the Soldatenfriedhof at Cannock Chase. Following further investigation, they were formally identified by the German War Graves Authority in 2002.

7./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-1 (8048). Port oil cooler damaged by fighters during sortie to attack Driffield and belly-landed near Hunmanby, south-west of Filey, 1.30 p.m. Possibly that claimed by F/O P.E.G. Carter of No.73 Squadron. BF Fw Georg Henneske killed, FF Oberlt Werner Bachmann, BO Uffz Werner Evers, and BS Flgr Robert Walther captured unhurt. Aircraft 4D+DR 100% write-off.

7./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-1. Shot down by fighters during sortie to attack Driffield and crashed in the North Sea 1.30 p.m. FF Lt Wolf-Dietrich Riede killed, BO Uffz Fritz Hartwich, BM Uffz Peter Panhuysen, and BF Flgr Richard Ulbrich all missing. Aircraft 100% write-off.
The 4D+CR and 4D+LR both failed to return from this sortie.

7./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-1. Shot down by fighters during sortie to attack Driffield and crashed in the North Sea 1.30 p.m. FF Fw Bernhard Gutow, BO Uffz Kurt Meier, BF Uffz Gerhard Kuhn, and BS Gefr Karl Orneschick all missing. Aircraft 100% write-off.

8./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-1. Crash-landed in Holland damaged by fighters off east coast of England during sortie to attack Driffield 1.30 p.m. BF Fw Heinz Przygodda slightly wounded, rest of crew unhurt. Aircraft 4D+KS 60% damaged - write-off.

8./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-1. Crashed on landing at Aalborg-West damaged by fighters off east coast of England during sortie to attack Driffield 1.30 p.m. Pilot unhurt, BO Uffz Joachim Rosin, BS Uffz Werner Jünnemann, and BF Fw Alfred Schumann all slightly wounded. Aircraft 75% damaged - write-off.
Crew allocations between the above two aircraft believed correct as shown.

8./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-1. Returned to Aalborg-West slightly damaged by fighters off east coast of England during sortie to attack Driffield 1.30 p.m. BS Fw Siegfried Matschke slightly wounded, rest of crew believed unhurt. Aircraft damage state not reported - repairable.

© Peter Cornwell 2016

[Peter Cornwell]

I currently have the following losses listed on 9 September 1940:

Stab KG30 Junkers Ju88A-5 (0274). Believed shot down by No. 66 Squadron Spitfires during sortie to bomb London Docks and belly-landed at Church Field, Newells Farm, Nuthurst, near Horsham, 6.00 p.m. FF Oberlt Rolf Heim (Geschwader Ia), BF Fw Albert Fuhs, BO Uffz Josef Beck, and BS Uffz Walter Baustian all captured unhurt. Aircraft 4D+AA 100% write-off.

Stabsstaffel II./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-2 (5074). Both engines disabled in attack by S/L R.H.A. Leigh of No. 66 Squadron during sortie to bomb London Docks. Harried by P/O H.R. Allen and P/O I.J.A. Cruickshanks of No. 66 Squadron prior to belly-landing at Bannisters Farm, Toulver Lane, Barcombe, near Lewes, 5.40 p.m. Possibly also that attacked by P/O R. Deacon-Elliott of No. 72 Squadron. FF Oberlt Hans-Gert Gollnisch (Staffelkapitän), BO Uffz Willi Rolf, and BF Uffz Willi Hamerla all captured unhurt, BS Uffz Ernst Deibler killed. Aircraft 4D+KK fired by crew 100% write-off.

Stabsstaffel II./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-1 (8032). Failed to return from sortie to bomb London Docks and believed shot down by fighters 5.45 p.m. FF Uffz [ ] Stahl, BO Uffz [ ] Fecht, BF Uffz [ ] Hallert and BS Gefr [ ] Goerth all missing. Aircraft 4D+FB 100% write-off.

Stab III./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-1 (333). Sortied to attack London but engaged by Spitfires of No. 602 Squadron and both engines disabled. Possibly that attacked by S/L A.V.R. Johnstone and P/O A. Lyall. Ditched on Pagham foreshore, east of Bognor Regis, following final attack by F/O P.C. Webb 5.50 p.m. FF Major Johannes Hackbarth (Gruppenkommandeur) and BO Oberfw Hans Manger both captured badly wounded, BF Uffz Willi Sawallisch and BS Gefr Friedrich Petermann both killed. Aircraft 4D+AD 100% write-off.
Hans Manger is believed to have baled out at extreme low level landing in Chalcraft Lane with an injured arm, another crewman reportedly falling without parachute in Nyetimber Lane. Hackbarth was reported to have suffered a badly wounded leg.

8./KG30 Junkers Ju88A-5 (3195). Shot down by fighters during sortie to attack London and believed crashed in the Channel off Bognor Regis 5.55p.m. BO Uffz Otto Hettinger and BF Obergefr Fritz Baumgarten both killed, BS Uffz Wilhelm Vette and FF Fw Ludwig Jung both rescued wounded. Aircraft 4D+LS 100% write-off.

© Peter Cornwell 2016

[edNorth]

088 5074 (ATG) was Ju 88 A-1 version, no A-2 was built (cancelled variant).
All references to Ju 88 "A-2" refer to equipment status, not type designation. In short there were no A-2´s built.

333 was 088 0333 (FZB), 0274 was 088 0274 (FZB), 8032 was 088 8032 (SFW), 3195 was 088 3195 (HFW). In bold are the indentifying letters that indentified who made or assembled that airframe.

(c) Eggert [all this and coming years]

[Stig Jarlevik]

Peter

What worries me somewhat is the difference your answer under post 7 is to the book Luftwaffe crashlog vol 2 published three years ago

The second 4./KG 30 aircraft was then listed as 4D+-M crashing in Auburn Farm. Now both individual letter D and name of the farm is both known/changed.

The 7./KG 30 aircraft 4D+DR lacked WNr (which I thought was surprising since it is very intact and also had the digits 48 clearly visible), but which now has been located. Crash place in the book was Bridlington Reservoir, Yorkshire, while you use something totally different now.

There are also other differences between your post 8 and Vol 3 in the book series. For example WNr 0274 is now an A-5 while the book says it was an A-1.

Are the changes made due to new archives located, or checkings of spellings/misprints or re-reading records noticing something has been missed? Because if so much can be found to differ while adding three more years of research, will you and the other in the Team ever dare to finish your 1939-1940 project? Perhaps I should put that question to Larry, but I suppose the moment came right now. I was hoping for the first volume to be published quite soon....

Cheers
Stig