56th FG 28 september 1944

[Flupke]

Hello to all

I am looking for the crash place of the 2nd Lt Pitts Walter H. (KIA)O-770393
56th FG 63rd FS 28 September 1944 , the serial of the A/C was probably #42-28822

Many thanks in advance
Phil

[drgondog]

Pitts KIA after crashing into ground or trees while strafing southwest of Koblenz

[Flupke]

I have the same information but the 28 September the area was not yet in allied hands and there is no MACR for that loss!! so he probably went down much more west than Koblenz ,

[Horst Weber]

@ Flupke & drgondog !

You are right. 2nd Lt. Pitts came down in allied territory in Luxembourg. His crash-location is Hupperdingen, local district "Knupp", according to the most serious sources from there.

Those circumstances may explain, why no MACR was compiled.

Lt. Col. Schilling was right in his aereal positioning, giving an appx. position as Speicher and Herforst. The distance from Lt. Col. suspected position to 2nd Lt. Pitts crash-location is only about 47 km WNW.

2nd Lt. Pitts remains are now resting at Henry-Chapelle Permanent Cemetary in Belgium.

Hope, this helps.

Horst Weber

[Flupke]

As usual , Many thanks Horst , very interesting information !!

However I have a doubt
At Hupperdingen it was maybe the 1st Lt Nangle Mc Elroy (KIA)O-670960 362nd FG 377th FS E4-D 42-28446 loss during a training flight


Regards
Phil

[drgondog]

Originally Posted by Horst Weber

@ Flupke & drgondog !

You are right. 2nd Lt. Pitts came down in allied territory in Luxembourg. His crash-location is Hupperdingen, local district "Knupp", according to the most serious sources from there.

Those circumstances may explain, why no MACR was compiled.

Lt. Col. Schilling was right in his aereal positioning, giving an appx. position as Speicher and Herforst. The distance from Lt. Col. suspected position to 2nd Lt. Pitts crash-location is only about 47 km WNW.

2nd Lt. Pitts remains are now resting at Henry-Chapelle Permanent Cemetary in Belgium.

Hope, this helps.

Horst Weber

excellent feedback - and that does explain no macr

[Horst Weber]

Originally Posted by Flupke

As usual , Many thanks Horst , very interesting information !!

However I have a doubt
At Hupperdingen it was maybe the 1st Lt Nangle Mc Elroy (KIA)O-670960 362nd FG 377th FS E4-D 42-28446 loss during a training flight


Regards
Phil

Hi Phil !

Yes, it is doubtful. But much happened in allied territory and is not reported in MACR's. In the cases 1st Lt. Nangle McElroy and 2nd Lt Walter Pitts an individual research via IDPF would certainly clear all questions.

Best wishes !

Horst Weber

[Flupke]

You’re right the IDPF should solve the problem.
1st Lt Nagle was in training flight from Prosne , I think that Hupperdingen is really far from there and also risky for a training (frontline) , however Pitt was coming probably already damaged from the area SEof Bitburg and it’s much more probable that he tried to reach allied lines with a course NE . Hupperdingen seems to be the right place
I will contact John Derneden to see if he had more information on this.

Many thanks Horst

Regards
Phil

[Flupke]

Well gentlemen !!
After a very interesting conversation with my good friend John Derneden , it’s definitively sure it’s well Hupperdingen for the crash site of Lt Pitts , Lt Nangle crashed NE of Prosnes .

Many thanks for your help

Regards
Phil