Ta152 loss

[stephen f. polyak]

On April 14, 1945 a Ta152 with JG301 was downed in aerial combat. The pilot, Ofw. Josef Sattler, was killed, sadly. I'm interested in learning the WNr. of that airplane and information on the military service of Josef Sattler, including the number of kills attributed to him. Thank you

[DDT]

Hi Stephen,

Willi Reschke's book about the history of JG 301 & 302 does not mention a WerkeNr. In the index of victories, I can find 3 victories:

1. 09/06/1944 2./JG 302 a B-24 , 10.06 hrs , München, (HSS)
2. 26/06/1944 2./JG 302 a B-24 , 09.22 hrs , Deutsch-Wagram
3. 26/06/1944 2./JG 302 a P-51 , 09.26 hrs , Deutsch-Wagram

Hope this helps, kind regards,

Dirk

[Kutscha]

The combat of April 14, 1945.

http://clocloz.altervista.org/histor...14-4-1945.html

Doesn't have any WNr tho.

[stephen f. polyak]

Hi Dirk,

Thank for your reply. The information you provided on Ofw. Sattler's air victories is exactly what I was hoping to learn.

Best regards,
Steve

Originally Posted by DDT

Hi Stephen,

Willi Reschke's book about the history of JG 301 & 302 does not mention a WerkeNr. In the index of victories, I can find 3 victories:

1. 09/06/1944 2./JG 302 a B-24 , 10.06 hrs , München, (HSS)
2. 26/06/1944 2./JG 302 a B-24 , 09.22 hrs , Deutsch-Wagram
3. 26/06/1944 2./JG 302 a P-51 , 09.26 hrs , Deutsch-Wagram

Hope this helps, kind regards,

Dirk

[stephen f. polyak]

Hi Kutscha,

Thank you for pointing out that link. The analysis of the events that would cost Ofw. Sattler his life is very detailed, informative. Good graphics, too.

Best regards,
Steve

Originally Posted by Kutscha

The combat of April 14, 1945.

http://clocloz.altervista.org/histor...14-4-1945.html

Doesn't have any WNr tho.

[DDT]

You're welcome Steve.
Dirk

[stephen f. polyak]

These links show a piece of the wreckage from Ofw. Sattler's downed Ta152. Including a data plate, the piece is reportedly from the fuselage.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/g4md8f...wz/Ta152-1.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/view/qh6dta...ve/Ta152-2.jpg

The plate is marked:

8 152 k56
F 510
pk^ 0101

I would appreciate any additional information about these markings. Also, I am still hoping to learn this airplane's WNr.

Thank you,
Steve

[Arado 396]

Hi Steve

What information do you connect this plate with Sattler´s Ta152 ???
Very mysterious !!!

The plate is an assembly type plate from the inside of the fuselage.
With this type plate you will not get any information about the WNr.


The seller also gave not info:


---> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Wehrmacht-Luf...p2047675.l2557

---> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Wehrmacht-Luf...vip=true&rt=nc

[stephen f. polyak]

Hi Christoph,

Good to hear from you! Further investigation as to the source and origin of the piece connected it to that event. In this instance, as it sometimes is with such relics, trust was also a factor. There is no aircraft WNr. on either plate. So far, unfortunately, that number has not been revealed otherwise, at least that I am aware of. Perhaps in time...

With regards,
Steve

P.S. Yesterday, I replied to Frank B. I hope the photos of the piece shown here will appear on the Ta152 site. Enjoy!

[Reiner]

Originally Posted by Kutscha

The combat of April 14, 1945.

http://clocloz.altervista.org/histor...14-4-1945.html

Doesn't have any WNr tho.

Hello
I do`nt believe that Shaw shot down Sattler. The Combat report from Shaw states that he shot down a Fw190 with east course. I think, it was the Fw190 of Skupina, which crashed near Garlin. Eyewitnesses from Garlin saw a lone Fw190 with east course and two "American" fighterplanes. If Shaw know his position not exactly so he could mistook Grabow with Ludwigslust. 10km SE of the town what he means as Ludwigslust there is Garlin. For me W/O never shot down Ofw.Sattler and his Ta152.

Greetings, Rene