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Old 24th October 2014, 11:28
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Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Browsing modelling forum scalemodels.ru I came across a photos of Do 215 with Wespe emblem on its nose, that is confirmed by www.ww2.dk listing one on strength of Stab Z.G. 1 in 1942. Are you aware of any other evidence? Codes maybe?

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Old 25th October 2014, 00:54
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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Hi, Pawel...

Sadly, I only have one image of such an aircraft. I don't know if it's the same one you saw on the above-mentioned website, but just in case it isn't, I thought I'd post it here.

I have seen the entry on Michael Holm's listings, so I imagine for Geschwaderstab/ZG1 the code might have been S9+~A, with the missing I/D letter and spinner tips in blue, but I have no confirmation at present.

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Old 25th October 2014, 22:53
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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Given on the old LEMB as stkz PK+DX

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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Peter...

Thanks for the additional image and the Stkz... . Might I ask, would it have been the Stkz seen on the aircraft, or do you know if it was replaced by a Vkz?

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Old 27th October 2014, 08:48
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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Just for the record, the Ju 52 (G5+KH) in background seems to be from Lw.Kdo. Ost.

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Old 28th October 2014, 13:22
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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Hi Paul the stkz was given on the old LEMB board
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Old 29th October 2014, 20:15
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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Hi, Peter...

I took a look at the Stkz database and note the sources confirming the listing there are given as the Gatow Air Movements Log, 1940-1942 and Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt.Nr.12940/44.

I acknowledge my lack of expertise in this area, but if listed in the above documents, might I be correct in thinking that PK+DX would have been the code actually seen on the aircraft?

If you or anyone else could guide me here, I'd be very grateful.

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Old 30th October 2014, 09:46
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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Yes it could possibly remain PK+DX. What I'd expect is that the a/c received yellow Ostfront recognition markings.

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Old 30th October 2014, 11:14
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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

And also worth noting is that the a/c is missing 'Do 217-style' gun mountings on both sides of main canopy, so it was probably not used operationally before handed over to Z.G. 1 - which is a good news for those building ICM 1:48 Do 215 B-4 that is also lacking this (otherwise widely seen) feature.

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Re: Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

Pawel...

Thanks for your posts... I note you are already reading my mind regarding the ICM kit .

On the point you raise about the lateral MG position in the image Peter kindly posted, I have marked an area on it in red in the attachment below.

This is where I would imagine a side-mounted MG to be on a Do17Z, and I am aware of the 'indented' lateral position of the Do217, where the MG was fitted into a recessed area. I accept there is no visible evidence of an MG being fitted in this image (no MG barrel), but there appears to be, to my eyes, a opening - circular in shape at the top - through which an MG could have been fitted.

Might you agree, or are my old eyes just playing tricks?

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