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Old 2nd March 2017, 14:27
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Beech UC-43 - crash 19 Dec 1946 - serial?

AAIR mentions a US Embassy UC-43 Traveler crash on 19 Dec 1946 (France).

Serial listed is "8871".
Accident-report.com says 43-8871 for this accident, but Joe Baugher gives a Baltimore V, RAF FW714 for this one.

Also USN BuNo 8871 was an F6F-3 Hellcat, it appears.

There has been a NC8871, but this was a Beech Travel Air 2000.

Who can link "8871" with a US military or civil registration?

Any info welcome, thanks.

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Old 2nd March 2017, 17:30
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Re: Beech UC-43 - crash 19 Dec 1946 - serial?

Well, it won't be USN. All aircraft in the first BUNO series started with the letter A. A8871 was an O3U-1. The second BUNO was four digits long, but ended at 7303, when the third series was started. The third series was five digits long, and went to the current six digits when that overflowed. All BUNOs in the third series less than 10000 start with a zero. BUNO 08871 was an F6F-3 Hellcat. Neither of these aircraft would fit your situation.

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Old 2nd March 2017, 19:16
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Re: Beech UC-43 - crash 19 Dec 1946 - serial?

Perhaps the information provided to AAIR has a typo or mistake?

I've searched numerous word items on the Beech17 site looking for a match and can't come up with anything that answers your question. Word items searched, 1946-12, 8871, 871, France, YC-43, Embassy, Statts, Dulloums. http://beech17.net/

Additionally, this webpage indicates 8 occupants. http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=119124
This may just be more errors, but it would be tough to fit 8 occupants in a UC-43. If 8 occupants IS accurate, perhaps the aircraft was a UC-64 or something else?

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Old 2nd March 2017, 21:22
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Re: Beech UC-43 - crash 19 Dec 1946 - serial?

I had seen the ASN record where it says Toulouse and 8 injured, like you wrote Ravi.

Some British newspapers a few days later surprisingly speak of a French military airplane that had crashed near Toulouse with 9 injured....
The French had Beech C-45 Expeditors.

Will look further, but unfortunately have no experience with French newspaper archives for details.

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Old 8th March 2017, 14:07
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Re: Beech UC-43 - crash 19 Dec 1946 - serial?

Received additional info.

UC-43 was attached to US Embassy in London. Was on its way from Orly to London.
Crashed (out of gas) "in bombed out field while attempting emergency landing". Partially burned. Time: 1730Z.

Pilot: Capt. Statts; passenger: Sgt. A.J. Joghson - no injuries.

Location given as 7 kms N. of Dulloums. Considering route, this may be Doullens instead.

So, not Toulouse and/or 8 injured....

There was a (later) Lt Col John H. Statts, perhaps the Capt. Statts above.

Serial 8871 in report still a mystery, may also refer to (a) Station 8871.

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Old 10th March 2017, 22:28
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Re: Beech UC-43 - crash 19 Dec 1946 - serial?

Hello,

"FAA Aircraft 1939-1945" has the following -
FT509 - ( 44-67763 - c/n 6871 ) - Rtd USN as Bu 32900 - became NC248/N248E.
However Joe Baugher has in his site that FT509 was c/n 6771.
So perhaps he has a typo and maybe it is 6871 ?
And in turn the original number 8871 may have also been an error for 6871 ?
Anyone have details of NC248 or as later N248E ?

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