Colour scheme Bf-110 II./ZG76

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

Good Morning all,
I still haven't made any progress on the original topic.

1. "Staffelabzeichen" could be like in the picture for II.ZG76 ?

2. it could be conceivable that in February 1944 the affected Bf-110 had a winter camouflage like in the 2nd picture. I think this picture is more of a fantasy paint job than 100% realistic. But it should be 1944 and ZG76. The yellow wing tips would at least be there.

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

Originally Posted by Merlin

The production of the Bf 110G-2 at the Luther factory (until 1942 named MIAG) at Waggum ran up to WNr. 6432 and was continued with WNr. 120001 in July 1943.

The original personal loss files of II./ZG 76 from that time do not contain data for the aircraft (WNr. or unit code). These data were sometimes added later by hand with of a very thin pencil which is hard to decipher on most of my copies. For the loss of Claasen WNr. 64?0 is readable, the third character has a rounded upper edge.

WNr. 6400 was a total loss on 8.10.43 and WNr. 6430 was lost the same day by 6./ZG 76 with the crew Fw. Braig/Uffz. Span near Steyr. Therefore only WNr. 6420 is left for the Claasen aircraft.

Dear Merlin!

After a longer waiting period I have received new information. The "NVM" as a scan in color results in W.Nr. 6430 for me. Possibly still 6930. Aver 6430 is reportedly involved in another loss Fw. Braig/Uffz. Somewhere the records are a little confusing.

Greetings, Markus

[sidney]

[quote=QuaxDerBruchpilot;278538]Good Morning all,
I still haven't made any progress on the original topic.

1. "Staffelabzeichen" could be like in the picture for II.ZG76 ?

I think that the Staffelabzeichen was initially identified by Karl Ries Jr. as that of 5./ZG 76 back in the 1970s, but that was subsequently revised to 3./ZG 76. Short-lived, not sure about the precise dates, but possibly autumn 1939 - spring/summer 1940. The Gruppe was later transferred into the Nachtjagd arm, by memory as II./NJG 1. Certainly nothing to do with the year 1944.

Regards,
Sinisa

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

[quote=sidney;283304]

Originally Posted by QuaxDerBruchpilot

Good Morning all,
I still haven't made any progress on the original topic.

1. "Staffelabzeichen" could be like in the picture for II.ZG76 ?

I think that the Staffelabzeichen was initially identified by Karl Ries Jr. as that of 5./ZG 76 back in the 1970s, but that was subsequently revised to 3./ZG 76. Short-lived, not sure about the precise dates, but possibly autumn 1939 - spring/summer 1940. The Gruppe was later transferred into the Nachtjagd arm, by memory as II./NJG 1. Certainly nothing to do with the year 1944.

Regards,
Sinisa

Hi Sinisa,

I have worked intensively on this topic again in the last weeks and agree with you that this logo for as a squadron insignia probably does not fit for Stab.II./ZG76.
Thanks to user "Merlin" I assume that in early 1944 no more squadron insignia like this were used. Also the paint scheme of the plane is most likely standard paint scheme of the aircraft manufacturer and not a winter paint scheme. This seems understandable in view of the advanced war situation.
Only the topic of the "Werknummer" (Serialnumber) is still a bit strange. But I'm sure the experts will get back to you on that.

Regards,
Markus

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

Hello everybody!

No idea what the theme with the "work number" 6430 or 6930 is.
Or is it worth going into the depth with the two pilots "Span" and "Braig" next, who also got lost. Maybe the NVM is misspelled?

Regards Markus