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Old 4th May 2018, 11:01
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Typhoon Ursula - Sept 1945 - Formosa - 6 US a/c lost?

Also website https://noaahrd.wordpress.com/2015/0...yphoon-ursula/ says that 6 US aircraft were lost or went missing due to Typhoon Ursula around Formosa while transporting ex-POWs.

Three of these 6 a/c would have been B-24s 44-40666 and 44-42052 (both 494th BG) and 44-40491 (11th BG), all on 10 Sep 1945.

Any leads welcome to the other (three) a/c that reportedly were lost due to this typhoon.

Not sure if the loss of an RAF Dakota (117 Squadron) with POWs on 8 Sep 1945 can be attributed to same storm.

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Old 6th May 2018, 05:56
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Re: Typhoon Ursula - Sept 1945 - Formosa - 6 US a/c lost?

These MACR's may be some of those a/c ?
14928 - B25 - Crew 5, Passengers 5.
14972 - B24 - Crew 5, Passengers 20.
14973 - B24 - Crew 5, Passengers 20.
15491 - C54 - 45-526 - Crew 4, Passengers ? Chinese troops.

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Old 6th May 2018, 09:37
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Re: Typhoon Ursula - Sept 1945 - Formosa - 6 US a/c lost?

Alex,

Casualties of 44-40491 were 5 US crew and 20 British POW. Of 44-42052 5 US crew and 11 US, 4 Dutch, 5 Australian POW. Names of all are on the web.

Of 44-40666 there were 12 POW killed and 13 survived (incl. 5 crew). They were picked up by a USN ship.
The MACRs you refer to cover two of above.

On 11 Sep 1945 there (also) was a USMC R4D-5 BuNo 17115 that "crashed in bad weather", but I could find no further details. Was with MAG-14.

As for C-54G 45-526 not sure if related to Typhoon Ursula. See https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...-floyd-ableman

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Old 6th May 2018, 20:41
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Re: Typhoon Ursula - Sept 1945 - Formosa - 6 US a/c lost?

Another possible loss due to Ursula: B-24M 44-50459 of 531st BS/380th BG.

Disappeared in storm (8 Sep 45) while on return to Clark Field after a POW flight. 5 US crew MIA since.
See http://380th.org/NEWS/TAPS/TAPS-MIA.pdf at bottom.

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(Not POW flights, but equally high in fatalities around that time were Dakota A65-56, RAAF, with 3 crew and 16 PAX on 11 Sep 1945,and USAAF C-47A 42-23860 of 68th TCS/433rd TCG with 4 crew and 26 PAX on 6 Sep 1945. The latter one near Tacloban, PI, "in severe storm").
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Re: Typhoon Ursula - Sept 1945 - Formosa - 6 US a/c lost?

Some information on 44-42052 here:

http://michaelturton.blogspot.com/20...n-taitung.html
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