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Old 19th October 2017, 15:38
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Re: Danish Pilot Peter Horn - aircraft info wanted

Michael,

Top Mustang Aces -
MH Pinches 5+3sh RAF
BM Vassiliades 5+2sh Greek
GRAM Johnson 5+2sh RAF
E Horbaczewski 5+1sh Polish
LAP Burra-Robinson 5+1sh RAF
PJ Hearne 5 RAF
J Bargielowski 5 Polish

Top Mustang V1 Aces -
J Hartley 12 RAF
J Zalenski 9+1sh Polish
T Szymanski 8 Polish
RG Kleinmayer 7+1sh RNZAF
JA Mielnecki 6+1sh Polish
E Redhead 6+1sh RAF

Thunderbolt Aces -
BM Gladych 10 Polish
W Lanowski 4 Polish
N Cameron 1sh RAF Far East

No mention of Birksted in that book, but he had no claims in those a/c. Most of his kills were over the channel in 42/43, so I checked the Spitfire Aces of the Channel Front and they credit him with a total of 10+1sh in that book, as does Aces High.

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Old 19th October 2017, 20:47
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Re: Danish Pilot Peter Horn - aircraft info wanted

Good evening Peter,

thanks a lot for the data.

To resume the initial topic, this is what the JG51 book by Aders/Held offers about Horn (p259):
  • Uffz. Horn, first name unknown - III.Gruppe - 3 kills in JG51 - 3 kills total
  • Lt. Horn, first name unknown - I.Gruppe - 10 kills in JG51 - 10+ kills total
That's not much, indeed but I think the JG51 book by John Weal offers even less :-(
May it be that the activities of Peter Horn were not recorded like those of the Germans because of his problematical national background ?

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Old 19th October 2017, 21:18
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Re: Danish Pilot Peter Horn - aircraft info wanted

Peter,
Birksted flew in his Mustang III, when returning to Copenhagen in mid-May 1945. It was the same a/c that he had carried out 14 of his 18 operations while at Bentwaters Wing.

I do not know Osprey's source of information, but there are wrong.

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Re: Danish Pilot Peter Horn - aircraft info wanted

Thanks Mikkel.
Michael, Horn is not listed in the index of Weal's book.
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Old 20th October 2017, 09:10
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Re: Danish Pilot Peter Horn - aircraft info wanted

The military record of Peter Horn does exist in BAMA Freiburg, but was until recently it was not possible to gain access. I will look into it some time next year. In the eyes of the NAZI regime, Scandinavians were looked upon as true ariens so his background was not problematic.

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Re: Danish Pilot Peter Horn - aircraft info wanted

Good morning Junker,

I didn't assume that the Germans considered his national background problematical. But I thought that the Germans might have thought that his Danish fellow countrymen might cause him troubles. That might have been a reason to treat his record with more discretion than the records of the German, Austrian or Spanish pilots (?)

I would be great if you check Horn's record in Freiburg !

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Re: Danish Pilot Peter Horn - aircraft info wanted

Those danes who did serve with the german forces were often sympatetic to the nazi course, and they did have a Danish newspaper, called Fædrelandet/Fatherland were many of them told of their service on the eastern front and elswere.

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Re: Danish Pilot Peter Horn - aircraft info wanted

Good evening Junkers,

sometimes the Germans dealt with the service of the legionnaires quite diplomatically. For example they sent the Eastern European SS-units to the Western front in the final phase of the war. This was done to prevent them to be captured by the fellow countrymen. But it was of no use: after being captured by the Americans they were handed over to the Soviet Union.

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HORN, Peter. (DOB: 15.10.15 in Denmark). (n.d.) a Danish volunteer served in the Finnish Air Force before transferring to the Luftwaffe. (n.d.) Lt., I./JG 54. Survived the war. Credited with 11 victories.
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Dear Doug Stankey. Horn, Peter did not join the luftwaffe. I know, as I am the grand son, and we have investigated the case. Best regards Jacob
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The military record of Peter Horn does exist in BAMA Freiburg, but was until recently it was not possible to gain access. I will look into it some time next year. In the eyes of the NAZI regime, Scandinavians were looked upon as true ariens so his background was not problematic.

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Hello Junker,

have you had the oppurtunity to check Peter Horn's record in the meantime ?

All the best to you,

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