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Old 27th April 2017, 19:29
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Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

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Are their any available / published production figures for He177s produced at Eger-Cheb? If so, does similar data exist on their S-kenn and Werknummerserie?

I note that in one published photo from this site, the number "770003" is visible beneath the Plexiglas entrance hatch for the rear ginner position at the tail. A possible clue?

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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

I think it was possibly only assembly.

Project 1041 was started in late 1936 from Bomber A specification. Led by Technical Director Hertel, but designed by the Gunther brothers. Following eight initial prototypes an total of about 1,153 He 177 A series machines were built by the Arado/Warnemunde factory and the Heinkel at Rostock/Marienehe & Oranienburg factories. Production started in late 1941 and extending to October 1944.
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

Hi Ed,

So in other words, these machines were essentially pre-identified (fuselage), with this and required components and sub-assemblies all shipped to Eger-Cheb where they were assembled?

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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

Not all numbers painted on parts were actual W.Nr, lots of component numbers found on components at service center in France. Never heard of any Cheb production.
Only those already posted.
"770003" might be 0177 0003 (not six digit secret code) but V3 / 0003
no ""77xxxx" series in my list, but its not that much of a list.
Nothing to write home about.
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

For Eger I just find references to aircraft repair, component production (fuselages and/or wings for several Heinkel aircraft). They also upgraded He 177s and/or rebuilt early He 177 A-3 into the later A-3 with lengthened fuselage and forward-moved engines (+ strengthened wings?).
In many publication you may find this rebuild work as "He 177 production".
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Old 28th April 2017, 03:25
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

Yes, tonight saw He 177 A "tails and fuselages" (possibly repair of wings or parts) coming from PZL Mielec (transport structure marked as owed by Mietec in Intel reports from France). This was already from 1942, but is not "producton" per se.

In RAF intel file appears this:
5439 He 177 F8+BM
5442 He 177 GJ+RD / F8+BN
5455 He 177 F8+DP
535565 He 177 A-3/R2 GP+WC

Large part painted serial numbers:
30009 (1014)
30011
30012
30013

431007 / 432007 (twice each)
432022 Fuselage nose
433120

hky =
mkw = inside cockpit
jhf 526
jhf 515

Arado Wittenberg
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Old 28th April 2017, 10:30
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

AFAIR Mielec was a major component factory for Heinkel Rostock/Oranienburg. I saw it often mentioned regarding He 219 fuselages.
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

Gents,

Sorry for the delay in expressing my thanks for your comments. I did stumble upon the same general information in one of the JaPo books regarding the `conversion`function of the Eger-Cheb facilities, though without the detail you both provided.

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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

Post 6 GP+WC
according source Heinkel He177, 277, 274 from Joachim Dressel / Manfried Griehl
this is WNr.535353
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production

I have checked the RLM Aircraft programmes No. 222, 223, 224, 225, 226 and 227 and have found no evidence that the He 177 series production were produced by anyone else than Arado Brandenburg (ArB) and Heinkel Oranienburg (HWO). Some conversion work was undertaken by DLH Tempelhof (DLHT) and the following abbreviated company names not 100% certain to me: GHF/LBG, RWE, FWE, EHF/LBG. I believe EHF is abbreviated for Ernst Heinkel Flugzeugwerke Marienehe (Rostock)
Can anyone help out here.

I have the following He 177 series production (excluding prototypes and pre-production series):
He 177A-1 130 all delivered by ArB
He 177A-3 159 all delivered by ArB
He 177A-3 88 all delivered by HWO
He 177A-3 188 all delivered by ArB with Kehl III installations
He 177A-3 30 all delivered by ArB with Kehl IV installations
He 177A-5 70 all delivered by HWO
He 177A-5 279 all delivered by ArB with Kehl V installations

Included in the figures above is the following conversions:

He 177A-0/A-1 12 aircraft converted to Zerströrers by EHF

He 177A-1 34 aircraft converted by EHF/LGB with Kehl III

Some aircraft were converted from old A-3 standard to new A-3 standard by DHLT, RWE and FWE.
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