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Old 7th January 2012, 21:09
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Information needed on Spitfire MK1B 'cannon wing'

Hello everyone,
Im trying to find some hard information on the fate of the the first 20mm cannon equipped Spitfires. So far i have established from texts that there were 30 of these machines 'put together' (modified from existing mk1s) and put into service, although i cannot verify that this is the exact number or just a rounded estimate. I have records of 23 of these Aircraft and i have a rough history for each one which i will pop in a new post below this one. My problem is that if there were more than 23 produced, what are the serial numbers of the ones i haven't found, and what happened to them?

I am doing some research into a Spitfire crash local to me. I still cant find ANY information on the aircraft itself (serial number, unit, pilot ect). I have eye whitness accounts and i know roughly where the aircraft came down. The pilot bailed out and was described as having an 'unusual accent'.

My only lead is the local rumour that it was one of the first Spitfires to be eqipped with 20mm cannons, hence my search for the fate of these machines. None of the ones i have traced so far fit the profile for this crash so i've hit a bit of a wall on this one.

Of course, it may just be rumour that it was a 20mm Spit! but i have to start somewhere! I hope someone can help!
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Old 7th January 2012, 21:14
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Re: Information needed on Spitfire MK1B 'cannon wing'

sorry, i meant to say i found records for 26! here are the ones i have found so far. . . . .


1. L1007 Ia 233 EA MIII FF 15-6-39 AMDP 21-6-39 2x20mm cannon install VA AAEE 21-6-39 hand and perf trials 603S 'XT-K' AFDU 10-39 65S 5-11-39 609S 18-4-40 as proto MkIB 72S Drem shot down Heinkel over Scotland 1-40 ? Landed on top of L1085 on landing Drem 15-5-40 SOC CE 28-5-40

*2. P9504 Ia 666 EA MIII FF 30-4-40 first prod aircraft with 2x20mm cannon and 4x.303 m/gs 1AAS 8-5-40 FA damaged 23-5-40 SOC 4-10-40 to 2728M 30-9-41 SOC 3-6-45 *2 2mm Cannons and 4 .303


3. R6761 Ia 788 EA MIII FF 18-6-40 24MU 19-6-40 6MU Brize Norton 21-6-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 27-6-40 1CRU further mods 26-8-40 R-RH 21-4-41 Cv Va M45 92S 3-5-41 Missing presumed shot down by Bf109s on convoy patrol 23-6-41 SOC 30-6-41 FH151.35

4. R6762 Ia 789 EA MIII FF 16-6-40 6MU Brize Norton 17-6-40 cannon wing fitt 7OTU 21-6-40 ? first cannon Spitfire to RAF 19S 27-6-40 266S enemy action C2 18-8-40 AST 222S 31-10-40 FAC2 16-11-40 AST 53OTU 23-6-41 57OTU 27-4-43 Collided with P-47 and crashed nr Eshott CE 12-4-44

5. R6770 Ib 797 EA MIII FF 20-6-40 (CG) 6MU 23-6-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 27-6-40 CE ops 22-8-40 1CRU AAEE 7-10-40 with 2x20mm cannon and 4x.303 m/gs mod spars. Perf and hand trials in comparison with X4257 92S 8-3-41 R-RH 30-3-41 Cv V M45 damaged by Bf109 C2 14-6-41 1CRU MMO 74S 5-12-41 CB ops 11-12-41 AST Cv IX M61 FF as IX 6-1-42 VAWD 20-3-42 310S 'NN-D' 4-6-42 CA ops 16-6-42 306S 10-7-42 Missing from ground attack mission nr St.Omer 22-8-42

6. R6776 Ia 807 EA MIII FF 22-6-40 (CG) 6MU 25-6-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 27-6-40 AAEE 4-9-40 VA 5-9-40 AFDU Duxford 11-1-41 R-RH 10-2-41 Cv Vb M45 AFDU Duxford 21-2-41 92S 3-3-41 engine failed crash-landed 19-3-41 AST 316S 12-10-41 306S 12-12-41 Damaged by Bf109s on ground Bolt Head CAC 1-5-42 recat E Westland SOC 12-5-42 FH234.00

7. R6809 Ia 813 EA MIII FF 26-6-40 (CG) 6MU 28-6-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 5-7-40 222S 20-9-40 R-RH 11-1-41 Cv Vb M45M AFDU Duxford 22-2-41 91S 'DL-G' 10-4-41 302S 17-11-41 CE ops 21-4-42 ASTE PPSM 11-10-42 fuel syst mods 222S 26-2-43 64S 31-3-43 118S 25-9-43 350S 13-4-44 CGS 3-10-44 SOC 4-9-45

8. R6833 Ia 827 EA MIII FF 28-6-40 (CG) 6MU 29-6-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 1-7-40 RAE 4-9-40 trials of VHF Type TR1133 VA 5-9-40 AFDU Northolt 21-10-40 92S 12-11-40 R-RH 16-2-41 Cv Vb M45 92S 26-2-41 CAC ops 15-4-41 AST 312S 6-12-41 Abandoned in bad visibility crashed nr Aberystwyth CE 24-1-42 SOC 6-42

9. R6882 Ia 840 EA MIII FF 1-7-40 (CMG) 6MU Brize Norton 28-7-40 cannon wing fitt 7OTU 3-9-40 AFDU Duxford 11-1-41 R-RH 10-2-41 Cv Vb M45 92S 'QJ-N' 9-3-41 609S 30-8-41 Broke up in air and abandoned 2.5m NE of East Stoke Notts FACE 10-1-42 SOC 17-1-42

10. R6888 Ia 846 EA MIII FF 3-7-40 8MU 5-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 11-7-40 AFDU Northolt 28-11-40 92S 4-2-41 struck obst on takeoff CE 10-2-41 HAL Cv LFVb M45M 302S 12-9-41 PPSM 12-10-41 fuel syst mods 302S struck BL547 after landing CB 20-12-41 HAL VASM 24-4-43 mods 308S 18-8-43 FAAC 28-8-43 9MU 16-11-43 130S 222S 611S Missing from patrol over Normandy presumed shot down by Bf109s 14-6-44

11. R6889 Ib 847 EA MIII FF 3-7-40 (CMG) 8MU 4-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 11-7-40 VA 25-8-40 first MkI to have 'B' wing (2xcannon and 4xm/gs) MXII 152S 27-9-40 19S 5-10-40 F/Lt Lawson shot down Bf109 5-11-40 First kill by Spit with 'B' wing FAC2 22-12-40 MMO Cv Vb interim stage M45 and parts supplied by R-R First flight in new config 13-2-41 R-RH 13-2-41 M46 install 1-4-41 used for gen dev of rad and oil cool and props AAEE 7-42 for trials M32 install. returned to MMO 9-12-42 Cv back to normal FV 5-2-43 7RS as 3650M 2-4-43 71MU 16-8-44 CE 29-8-44

12. R6890 Ia 849 EA MIII FF 4-7-40 8MU 8-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 11-7-40 R-RH 8-2-41 M45 install 92S 8-3-41 damaged by Bf109 15-5-41 92S damaged by Bf109 12-6-41 AST 616S 22-7-41 403S 12-9-41 CAC 13-3-42 ros 121S 13-4-42 FACB 20-5-42 GAL Cv Va M46 PPSM 12-10-42 guns removed fuel syst mods 316S 21-1-43 306S 16-3-43 FAAC 3-8-43 ros 312S 4-12-43 444S 27-2-44 53OTU 27-6-44 FAAC 25-8-44 ros Portsmouth Aviation 4-10-45 SOC 13-10-45

13. R6897 Ia 855 EA MIII FF 5-7-40 (CMG) 6MU 7-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 11-7-40 FAC2 26-8-40 1CRU R-RH 11-1-41 Cv Vb M45 AFDU Duxford 23-2-41 92S 3-3-41 engine failed crash-landed 19-3-41 AST 234S 14-9-41 FACB 19-11-41 ASTE 310S 20-6-42 332S 3-8-42 PPSM 19-8-42 mods 411S 20-11-42 air collision with AB847 Alby Lincs 28-1-43 SOC

14. R6904 Ia 863 EA MIII FF 8-7-40 (CMG) 6MU 10-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 13-7-40 VA 25-8-40 Cv Vb AFDU Northolt 27-9-40 19S 30-10-40 service trials 92S 22-1-41 R-RH 16-2-41 M45 install AST 25-7-41 615S 24-9-41 65S 6-10-41 121S 9-1-42 FAAC 2-6-42 306S 18-6-42 Missing from ground attack mission nr St.Omer 22-8-42

15. R6911 Ia 870 EA MIII FF 10-7-40 (CMG) 6MU 11-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 14-7-40 7OTU 10-9-40 FAC2 14-9-40 AST 18-10-40 SOC 21-9-41 cancel R-RH Cv Vb 52OTU 8-11-41 Westland 8-5-42 215MU 19-9-42 Peter Mearsk 8-11-42 lost at sea 8-1-43

16. R6912 Ia 871 EA MIII FF 10-7-40 (CMG) 6MU 11-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 14-7-40 damaged by Bf109 crash-landed C3 P/O Aeberhardt killed 31-8-40 SOC 1-9-40 FH43.40

17. R6917 Ia 876 EA MIII FF 11-7-40 (CMG) 6MU 11-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 14-7-40 7OTU 3-9-40 FAC2 21-9-40 Scottish Aviation MMO 12-12-40 Cv Vb M45 parts supplied by R-RH 11-4-41 74S 16-5-41 609S 14-8-41 122S SOC 27-11-41 overturned on landing on soft snow Scorton CE 10-3-42 SOC 27-3-42

18. R6918 Ia 877 EA MIII FF 11-7-40 6MU 12-7-40 cannon wing fitt 610S 'DW-D' 28-7-40 shot down by Bf109 off Calais FTR F/Sgt Tanner killed 11-8-40

19. R6919 Ia 878 EA MIII FF 11-7-40 (CMG) 6MU cannon wing fitt 19S 14-7-40 MMO 6-8-40 mods and Cv Vb AFDU Northolt 21-10-40 19S 8-11-40 service trials 92S 'QJ-L' 22-1-41 R-RH 16-2-41 M45 install 316S 3-5-42 41S 31-8-42 engine failed crash-landed nr Penrhos CE 26-10-42

20. R6923 Ia 883 EA MIII FF 12-7-40 (CMG) 6MU 16-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 22-7-40 7OTU 3-9-40 R-RH 7-4-41 Cv Vb M45 92S 26-4-41 ? shot down into sea by Bf109 aircraft abandoned 22-6-41

21. R6924 Ia 893 EA MIII FF 15-7-40 (CMG) 6MU 16-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 19-7-40 7OTU 3-9-40 AST 8-9-40 Cv MkII MXII AFDU Northolt 28-11-40 92S 22-1-41 lost in fog crashed pilot killed C3 7-2-41 AST SOC 18-2-41 cancel 504S 5-11-41 58OTU 8-3-42 53OTU 23-9-42 hit steamroller overshot Fairwood Common 26-1-43

22. R6958 Ia 890 EA MIII FF 15-7-40 (CMG) 6MU 16-7-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 30-7-40 shot down by Bf109 nr North Weald F/O Brinsden abandoned aircraft 31-8-40 FH32.20

23. X4159 Ia 998 EA MIII FF 8-8-40 6MU 10-8-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 1-9-40 7OTU 3-9-40 FA 13-9-40 oxygen failure crashed Tatton Hall Cheshire Sgt Edgar killed

24. X4272 Ia 1071 EA MIII FF 25-8-40 6MU 9-9-40 cannon wing fitt 92S 'QJ-D' 7OTU R-RH Cv Vb M45 92S 21-3-41 222S 'ZD-D' Brakes failed taxying hit wall Ayr 19-10-42 [VASM 14-7-43 fuel syst mods wing stiff bomb carrier]

25. X4279 Ia 1078 EA MIII FF 29-8-40 6MU 29-8-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 9-9-40 7OTU 10-9-40 72S 24-10-40 R-RH 6-2-41 Cv Vb M45 AFDU Duxford 28-2-41 92S 14-3-41 C2 ops 24-3-41 616S 23-7-41 129S 13-12-41 41S 'EB-C' 3-3-42 crash-landed on beach West End Pwllheli CE 1-2-43

26. X4342 Ia 1103 EA MIII FF 3-9-40 (CMG) 8MU 5-9-40 6MU 9-9-40 cannon wing fitt 19S 9-9-40 7OTU 10-9-40 R-RH 11-1-41 Cv Vb M45 AFDU 24-2-41 92S 'QJ-P' 13-3-41 R-RH 15-4-41 damaged by Bf109 14-6-41 AST 316S 15-10-41 154S 13-6-42 121S 18-7-42 CAC ops 22-7-42 340S 13-9-42 131S 27-10-42 Missing on ground attack mission to Ouistreham 18-11-42
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