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Old 24th August 2016, 15:44
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Max Stotz FW190A-5 - black 5 or black 7?

Hi. I've seen many builds and profiles of Stotz's 190A-5, all with black 5 as the number. Eduard's recently released kit has the same markings for him. I'm wondering what information this is based on. Can anyone tell me?
The reason I ask is this. I have 2 photos apparently taken at the same time, supposedly of Stotz and another FW, and one supposedly of Stotz. Photos attached.
Photo 1 shows black 5 with someone who could be Stotz climbing into the cockpit. In the background the next a/c also has a pilot on the wing - to me he also looks like Stotz.
Photo 2 shows the two a/c from the other side (from which the lighting is not so good) and this shows both pilots in their a/c. In the second a/c, black 7, is the pilot I think is Stotz. I say that because a) it looks like him, and b) he is wearing a cap with woollen tails as I have seen in other photos of Stotz (magnify the photo to see ...)
Just because a photo is labelled "Stotz FW190A-5" doesn't necessarily mean it has to be the subject in the foreground, does it?
Any thoughts??

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Old 24th August 2016, 16:21
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Re: Max Stotz FW190A-5 - black 5 or black 7?

At least when shot down on Aug 19, 1943 he was flying Fw 190 A-6, 550201, black 7.

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Old 25th August 2016, 01:16
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Re: Max Stotz FW190A-5 - black 5 or black 7?

Thank you for that information Matti. I hadn't found that before.

I know they didn't always fly the same a/c, but still I haven't seen anything anywhere which says black 5 was his regular a/c.

I wonder if one of the pilots in the photos is Emil Lang?

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Old 19th March 2017, 04:33
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Re: Max Stotz FW190A-5 - black 5 or black 7?

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Photo 2 shows the two a/c from the other side (from which the lighting is not so good) and this shows both pilots in their a/c. In the second a/c, black 7, is the pilot I think is Stotz. I say that because a) it looks like him, and b) he is wearing a cap with woollen tails as I have seen in other photos of Stotz (magnify the photo to see ...)
Hello PMoz99,

When you're discussing -Photo 2- and say "second aircraft" - do you think of one of in foreground or background? Pilot of background aircraft "Schwartze 5+" looks like he is carrying winter hat with ear covers which is seen on Stotz photo you have posted. Foreground aircraft's pilot ("Shwartze 7+") looks semi bold.

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