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14th April 2005, 07:03
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Re: Photos 4-13-05
The first shot is a captured Soviet SB bomber.
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14th April 2005, 12:04
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Re: Photos 4-13-05
Another cracking selection of images Ed!!!
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6170783943 ...??? is an Avia B.71 coded in the SE+?? range, but I can't make out the last two letters... http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ayphotohosting Fw200... can anybody confirm the code? Looks like VB+UA to me... http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6170805022 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6170805037 These two Fokker G-1 images are amongst the clearest I've ever seen... and with a full code NF+UN visable too! http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6170818481 ..is an Airspeed Envoy.. partical coded ??+CQ... and suggestions for the complete code? cheers Peter D Evans LEMB moderator
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14th April 2005, 12:09
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Re: Photos 4-13-05
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14th April 2005, 13:31
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Re: Photos 4-13-05
This pic: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6170848533 depicts two Arado Ar 68 fighters - an Ar 68 F and an Ar 68 E (in the background).
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14th April 2005, 13:50
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 I was going on the asumption that most of the Beute B.71's were licence-built Ant.40's. The list below is an example of the SE+ code and w.nr's a group of us are currently putting together: SE+DQ Avia B-71 wnr156 SE+DR Avia B-71 wnr157 SE+DS Avia B-71 wnr158 SE+DT Avia B-71 wnr159 SE+DU Avia B-71 wnr160 SE+DV Avia B-71 wnr161 SE+DW Avia B-71 wnr162 SE+DX Avia B-71 wnr163 SE+DY Avia B-71 wnr164 SE+DZ Avia B-71 wnr165 SE+EA Avia B-71 wnr167 SE+EB Avia B-71 wnr168 SE+EC Avia B-71 wnr169 SE+ED Avia B-71 wnr170 SE+EE Avia B-71 wnr171 SE+EF Avia B-71 wnr172 SE+EG Avia B-71 wnr173 SE+EH Avia B-71 wnr174 SE+EI Avia B-71 wnr175 SE+EJ Avia B-71 wnr176 SE+EK Avia B-71 wnr177 SE+EL Avia B-71 wnr178 SE+EM Avia B-71 wnr179 SE+EN Avia B-71 wnr180 SE+EO Avia B-71 wnr181 SE+EP Avia B-71 wnr182 SE+EQ Avia B-71 wnr183 SE+ER Avia B-71 wnr184 SE+ES Avia B-71 wnr185 SE+ET Avia B-71 wnr186 SE+EU Avia B-71 wnr187 SE+EV Avia B-71 wnr188 SE+EW Avia B-71 wnr189 SE+EX Avia B-71 wnr190 SE+EY Avia B-71 wnr191 SE+EZ Avia B-71 wnr192 SE+FA Avia B-71 wnr193 SE+FB Avia B-71 wnr194 SE+FC Avia B-71 wnr195 SE+FD Avia B-71 wnr196 SE+FE Avia B-71 wnr197 SE+FF Avia B-71 wnr198 SE+FG Avia B-71 wnr199 SE+FH Avia B-71 wnr200 SE+FI Avia B-71 wnr201 SE+FJ Avia B-71 wnr202 SE+FK Avia B-71 wnr203 SE+FL Avia B-71 wnr204 SE+FM Avia B-71 wnr205 SE+FN Avia B-71 wnr206 SE+FO Avia B-71 wnr207 SE+FP Avia B-71 wnr208 SE+FQ Avia B-71 wnr209 SE+FR Avia B-71 wnr210 SE+FS Avia B-71 wnr211 SE+FT Avia B-71 wnr212 SE+FU Avia B-71 wnr213 SE+FV Avia B-71 wnr214 SE+FW Avia B-71 wnr215 SE+FX Avia B-71 wnr216 ....along with this thread on the LEMB http://p069.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeex...opicID=4.topic cheers Peter D Evans LEMB moderator
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14th April 2005, 14:31
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Re: Photos 4-13-05
Good grief guys! How how can one tell the difference between a B-71 and an SB 2 M-100 from that picture!
According to M. Maslov, in his Tuolev SB monograph (a fantastic book), both captured SB and B-71s operated together in LW service One way may be the location of the swastika. If it is on the rudder it is a B-71, if it is on the fin it is an SB. Good a way as any. 
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14th April 2005, 16:24
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Re: Photos 4-13-05
Thanks for the insight Steven...
In that case then, the image is of an SB-2 as per Ruy's suggestion. The swastika on the rudder/fin check is a new one on me! Wonder why the difference? BTW, is there anything in the monograph matching W.Nr.s with types or Luftwaffe codes? Cheers Peter D Evans LEMB moderator
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14th April 2005, 18:46
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Re: Photos 4-13-05
Hasn't SB-2 become a "no no" designation?
 However, judging by the photo captions in Tupolev SB in Action, the Swastika position could differ on B-71s, being positioned on the rudder, but sometimes on the fin. Of course old Hans-Heiri Stapfer could be wrong!
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14th April 2005, 19:20
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Re: Photos 4-13-05
You can call it anything you want.
http://misc.kitreview.com/bookreview...reviewse_1.htm I hope everyone realizes I was being a bit facetious about the swastika placement.
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