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Old 11th November 2017, 09:30
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Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

Hello,
The pics are from an e-bay offer with the description
Jagdflugzeug Bf Me 109 JG 52 Wappen weiße 4 -> Notlandung Griechenland 7.04.41.

The plain can`t be from JG 52, since this unit arrived after the 25 of May in Greece.
Any ideas? Unit, crew? More? The town in the horizon is Lamia.


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Old 11th November 2017, 10:22
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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

See this forum.

https://luftwaffe-research-group.org...38/#post-41983
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Old 11th November 2017, 10:39
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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

Hi Rene,

i can`t find it there, can you help?
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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

Ι just noticed the emblem, it belongs actually to Stab JG 52, so the plane too, the date of 7.04.41 is not valid

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Old 11th November 2017, 12:03
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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

See JFV 5, page 300 to see various aircraft from I.(J)/LG 2 sporting the JG 52 badge. Aircraft are hand-me-downs: JG 77 aircraft seen with JG 54 badges.

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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

You are right Don, thanks, but we still don`t know more about this aircraft. Stab JG 52 was never in Greece
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Old 11th November 2017, 15:31
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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

"So geht es im Krieg."
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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

Sorry, correction, I wrote exactly: " So, he was shot before being officially shot down ?"
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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

Ηi,

it is undeniably Lamia

see the mountains. Left of the soldiers helmet is the old castle

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Re: Belly landing of a Me 109 in Greece

Thanks guys,
Thanks Boris to have pointed the whole and correct discussion concerning this machine. It seems I didn't retain Lamia accident because of the 30% damages written in loss report comparing with previous, both with 15%, and what is depicted on this (these, they are 6 or 7) photo.
Thanks Byron, the photo you posted is crystal clear.
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again the same lesson: never trust photo's back (except here "Griechenland" was/is correct). Neither places, dates etc.. Need always to be check with very evidence if available.
And never accept Bruch rates for sure; 1/ They didn't give the real machine's state (at least not always, so far) since 2/ they do include - this assumption is well described and explained elsewhere - the capacity of the repairs to be done at local level; on field, next repair shop and/or higher level ... Means if one decide TO NOT DO the repairs .. Just put down higher rate on report .. Which is quite understandable when unit is on the move.

Cheers, guys, and regards.
Franck.

PS: Doesn't change my sentence above: "It was shot before being officially shot down"

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