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Heinkel He 111 H-4 Werknummerserien?
Gents,
Can anyone advise me of the Werknummerserien for the Heinkel He 111 H-4 produced by Heinkel-Oranienburg and ATG-Leipzig? From several posts on this website information is that the H-4s produced by Arado-Brandenburg fall into the small 3361-3364+ group though there should be more H-4 machines from this manufacturer. But for the previous two there are no data. I ask as from time to time come across photos of He 111 Hs with Werknummern in the 28xx, 29xx and 30xx series that fall outside these groups known for the P-2. In most cases the photo is just of the tail thus other attributes that could identify the aircraft are not visible. By process of elimination I suspect that these ‘rogue’ Werknummern are for the H-4s and would appreciate any additional information. Cheers, David
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Re: Heinkel He 111 H-4 Werknummerserien?
3211 - 3243 ( 33) He 111 H-4 He Rostock
3259 - 3294 ( 36) He 111 H-4 He Rostock 6953 - 7000 ( 48) He 111 H-4 ATG Leipzig Old notes,I think some that is forgotten. Last edited by edNorth; 5th April 2023 at 22:54. Reason: redact name, not shure but other sources like a German author (Griehl He 111 springs to mind. |
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Re: Heinkel He 111 H-4 Werknummerserien?
conflicting data
-in Jet & Prop 2010/04-05 "Created by retrofitting existing airframes and is not to be considered a newly manufactured variant." -post 2 serials in https://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waffen/He111-R.htm |
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Re: Heinkel He 111 H-4 Werknummerserien?
According to Volker Koos the remaining source material is divided and can be interpreted both ways.
He himself choose to bring all of them under the H-3 umbrella in his production list. Cheers Stig |
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Re: Heinkel He 111 H-4 Werknummerserien?
Gents,
Thanks for your information. I went through the available GQM NVM listings and from 1940-1945 and identified about 100 machines listed as He 111 H-4s with 87 aircraft also having their Werknummer indicated and falling within the following groups (brackets indicate the number of identified H-4s in the group): WNr.2705 – 3092 (5) WNr.3205 – 3318 (41) Interspersed with H-3 aircraft at Arado-Brandenburg? WNr.5962 – 5711 (11) WNr.6179 (1) WNr.6914 – 6998 (22) Interspersed with H-3 aircraft at Heinkel-Oranienburg? WNr.7032 (1) WNr.8747 (1) I can’t recall the source but I have about 150 H-4s being produced in 1940-1941. From the above it appears that H-4s were produced concurrently with H-3s with Werknummern intermixed. Best, David
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Re: Heinkel He 111 H-4 Werknummerserien?
From "Übersichtslisten der Änderungsanweisungen" from Heinkel, Rostock dated 1. April 1942, the following Werk-Nummer are given:
Heinkel-Werke Oranienburg: 6947, 6948, 6951, 6953-7000. Arado: 3211,3213,3214,3216,3217, 3219-3231, 3233-3244, 3256, 3259-3294, 3304 and 3311. These are by no means the complete list but it does not indicate any H-4 deliveries from Heinkel Rostock or ATG. These documents are available from Deutsches Museum, München. |
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