Please help to identify this part

[Rolfeb]

Hi All,

would like to identify this part of a Me 109.
Thanks a lot in advance

Rolf

[Broncazonk]

Yet another perfect example of how important including scale is in mystery part identification photographs. Is this item 3 cm or 30 cm?

Also: It is silly to post a single photograph of mystery a part without including a complete view of it, and a basic, fundamental description of it.

Bronc

[Rolfeb]

Dear Mr. Bronc,

thanks for your intellegent comment even it doesn't help at all.

First af all, there is a part number on the part which is quite vidsible. The part number is: R8-109.412-0101
. For the specialists in this Forum it is easy to identify. In Addition you can see some fingers at the part. So if the part would have a lenth of 30cm, how big the fingers must be? Giant fingers
Try to compare the fingers with the part and it can be max. 10 to 15cm, right?
Now, based on my Input it would nice to receive your qualified answer and thanks in advance

Rolf

[Broncazonk]

Originally Posted by Rolfeb

Dear Mr. Bronc,

thanks for your intellegent comment even it doesn't help at all.

First af all, there is a part number on the part which is quite vidsible. The part number is: R8-109.412-0101
. For the specialists in this Forum it is easy to identify. In Addition you can see some fingers at the part. So if the part would have a lenth of 30cm, how big the fingers must be? Giant fingers
Try to compare the fingers with the part and it can be max. 10 to 15cm, right?
Now, based on my Input it would nice to receive your qualified answer and thanks in advance

Rolf

Please look at YOUR photo.

The post above is yet another example of how important including scale is in mystery part identification photographs. Are your invisible mystery fingers 3 cm or 30 cm?

Once again, it is silly to post a single photograph of a mystery part without including a complete view of it, and a basic, fundamental description of it.

Why would I bother opening my reference materials when you are too lazy and so discourteous that you cannot photograph and describe it properly?

Serious question. Why?

*** The purpose of this forum is Group Learning and Information Sharing. People who come to the forum merely to harvest information for their own selfish purposes are misusing the forum. ***

If you want a mystery part identified, (1) include scale, (2) take good photos of the complete item, and, (3) include a basic, fundamental description of it.

That way everyone can see and learn from the exercise.

Bronc

PS: I would like to say this item is a control linkage: either flap, aileron or elevator, or slat arm pivot linkage, but without 1-3 above, who knows...

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Broncazonk

Please look at YOUR photo.

The post above is yet another example of how important including scale is in mystery part identification photographs. Are your invisible mystery fingers 3 cm or 30 cm?

Once again, it is silly to post a single photograph of a mystery part without including a complete view of it, and a basic, fundamental description of it.

Why would I bother opening my reference materials when you are too lazy and so discourteous that you cannot photograph and describe it properly?

Serious question. Why?

*** The purpose of this forum is Group Learning and Information Sharing. People who come to the forum merely to harvest information for their own selfish purposes are misusing the forum. ***

If you want a mystery part identified, (1) include scale, (2) take good photos of the complete item, and, (3) include a basic, fundamental description of it.

That way everyone can see and learn from the exercise.

Bronc

PS: I would like to say this item is a control linkage: either flap, aileron or elevator, or slat arm pivot linkage, but without 1-3 above, who knows...

Ok Bronc,
fully understand.
Here some Information and a reason why I didnt posted all info I have. Main reason I didn't is, I'm not sure about the story.
Living not far from Donaueschingen where we had 2 airfields during WW II . For a short time of period, the fields werre the base for one group of JG 53 and the other for 2./NAG 13.
I tried to localize a crash site where - based on eye whitnesses the Pilot Walter Ullrich crashed in Nov. 44 and lost his live. Based on several infos he flew a 109 G-14 which usally was equipped with an DB 605. Now I found some relics and one of them is a small part of the engine where I can see a 9 digit number starting with a 601....
Now I'm confused as with my limited Knowledge I believe only the Messerschmitt versions E and F flew with a 601. See pic in seperate post. But again I'm even not sure if I'm right or wrong.
If I'm right that it was a E or F it never van be the Pilot Walter Ullrich and in addition I do not know a Crash with a E or F in the area of Donaueschingen.
Hope my info now helpes a bit and as soon I have Access again to the part I will take a pic of the complete part and measure it to give you all details. It is in the Garage of a friend of mine and he is in Easter vacation. No access yet until end of the week.
Now I'm not sure if this is a different crash and if so there must be another crash site where Ullrich crashed but couldn't find any person around who know anything from a second plane crash during WW II.

[Snautzer]

@ Bronc the tone of your answer i find quite counter productive. True, this board is for learning. So try to teach instead of barking. Even if it is the 100 time you have to tell someone how you think it has to be done.

[Tomislav Haramincic]

Hello Rolfeb,

The aircraft part that you found is from a Bf109 F (from F-1 to F-4, all have used this part), so the small part with the engine number 601 fits very nicely to this one.
The part with the number 109.412-0101 is a lever (Hebel) which is part of the "Zwischenhebel bei Rippe 2", part of the flight control in the left wing (Steuerung im Flügel links).

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Tomislav Haramincic

Hello Rolfeb,

The aircraft part that you found is from a Bf109 F (from F-1 to F-4, all have used this part), so the small part with the engine number 601 fits very nicely to this one.
The part with the number 109.412-0101 is a lever (Hebel) which is part of the "Zwischenhebel bei Rippe 2", part of the flight control in the left wing (Steuerung im Flügel links).

Hi Tomislav, this is exiting and very interesting. Means I was searching for a crash site of a G-14 and found by coincidence a different one in same area. Thanks a lot for your support and happy to be almost sure now that I found a F and not the G-14. now the big question is, who was the pilot.
Thanks again, really appreciate your feedback.
Rolfeb

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Snautzer

@ Bronc the tone of your answer i find quite counter productive. True, this board is for learning. So try to teach instead of barking. Even if it is the 100 time you have to tell someone how you think it has to be done.

Thanks Snautzer. Nothing to add. Thank you.
Rolf

[schwarze-man]

Hi Rolfeb. The mystery is not really solved yet. The part 109.412-0101 is also listed in the Bf109G Ersatzteilliste and so, can be from a later Bf109G. However, if you give the full 601 component number that you have, I can see where that fits into the situation for you. Cheers

SM