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Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
Gents,
Are their any available / published production figures for He177s produced at Eger-Cheb? If so, does similar data exist on their S-kenn and Werknummerserie? I note that in one published photo from this site, the number "770003" is visible beneath the Plexiglas entrance hatch for the rear ginner position at the tail. A possible clue? In advance, many thanks, David
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
I think it was possibly only assembly.
Project 1041 was started in late 1936 from Bomber A specification. Led by Technical Director Hertel, but designed by the Gunther brothers. Following eight initial prototypes an total of about 1,153 He 177 A series machines were built by the Arado/Warnemunde factory and the Heinkel at Rostock/Marienehe & Oranienburg factories. Production started in late 1941 and extending to October 1944. |
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
Hi Ed,
So in other words, these machines were essentially pre-identified (fuselage), with this and required components and sub-assemblies all shipped to Eger-Cheb where they were assembled? Many thanks, David
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
Not all numbers painted on parts were actual W.Nr, lots of component numbers found on components at service center in France. Never heard of any Cheb production.
Only those already posted. "770003" might be 0177 0003 (not six digit secret code) but V3 / 0003 no ""77xxxx" series in my list, but its not that much of a list. Nothing to write home about. |
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
For Eger I just find references to aircraft repair, component production (fuselages and/or wings for several Heinkel aircraft). They also upgraded He 177s and/or rebuilt early He 177 A-3 into the later A-3 with lengthened fuselage and forward-moved engines (+ strengthened wings?).
In many publication you may find this rebuild work as "He 177 production". |
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
Yes, tonight saw He 177 A "tails and fuselages" (possibly repair of wings or parts) coming from PZL Mielec (transport structure marked as owed by Mietec in Intel reports from France). This was already from 1942, but is not "producton" per se.
In RAF intel file appears this: 5439 He 177 F8+BM 5442 He 177 GJ+RD / F8+BN 5455 He 177 F8+DP 535565 He 177 A-3/R2 GP+WC Large part painted serial numbers: 30009 (1014) 30011 30012 30013 431007 / 432007 (twice each) 432022 Fuselage nose 433120 hky = mkw = inside cockpit jhf 526 jhf 515 Arado Wittenberg |
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
AFAIR Mielec was a major component factory for Heinkel Rostock/Oranienburg. I saw it often mentioned regarding He 219 fuselages.
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
Gents,
Sorry for the delay in expressing my thanks for your comments. I did stumble upon the same general information in one of the JaPo books regarding the `conversion`function of the Eger-Cheb facilities, though without the detail you both provided. Thanks again, David
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
Post 6 GP+WC
according source Heinkel He177, 277, 274 from Joachim Dressel / Manfried Griehl this is WNr.535353 |
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Re: Heinkel He177 Eger-Cheb Production
I have checked the RLM Aircraft programmes No. 222, 223, 224, 225, 226 and 227 and have found no evidence that the He 177 series production were produced by anyone else than Arado Brandenburg (ArB) and Heinkel Oranienburg (HWO). Some conversion work was undertaken by DLH Tempelhof (DLHT) and the following abbreviated company names not 100% certain to me: GHF/LBG, RWE, FWE, EHF/LBG. I believe EHF is abbreviated for Ernst Heinkel Flugzeugwerke Marienehe (Rostock)
Can anyone help out here. I have the following He 177 series production (excluding prototypes and pre-production series): He 177A-1 130 all delivered by ArB He 177A-3 159 all delivered by ArB He 177A-3 88 all delivered by HWO He 177A-3 188 all delivered by ArB with Kehl III installations He 177A-3 30 all delivered by ArB with Kehl IV installations He 177A-5 70 all delivered by HWO He 177A-5 279 all delivered by ArB with Kehl V installations Included in the figures above is the following conversions: He 177A-0/A-1 12 aircraft converted to Zerströrers by EHF He 177A-1 34 aircraft converted by EHF/LGB with Kehl III Some aircraft were converted from old A-3 standard to new A-3 standard by DHLT, RWE and FWE. |
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