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Old 7th July 2018, 17:08
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Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
Appears this wreck was recovered in 2016...and from the pics, it was a belly-landing, followed by a fire (destroyed by crew?). was told 7/KG1...but any further info on this one?

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Old 7th July 2018, 22:25
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Re: Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
Hello Mike,

Gen.Qu. loss report from 19 February 1943 No.138:
16.2. III./KG 1 Feindflug, Ort: Pl.Qu. 18453-18454, Ursache: Bauchlandung, Flakbeschuß, Ju 88 A-4 8721 100%.
Crew unknown.

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Old 8th July 2018, 00:49
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Re: Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
Thanks Leo...

Interesting...

The odd thing is that it belly-landed, and apart from an obvious fire, it was fairly intact. Wonder what happened to the crew?
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Old 8th July 2018, 02:10
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Re: Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
Maybe the crew set fire to the aircraft after a successful belly landing..?
Just a hunch - no proof for this, Im afraid.
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Old 15th July 2018, 19:55
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Re: Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
Any photos of this recovery?
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Old 16th July 2018, 16:50
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Re: Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
Here are some:

Should be V4+ER...not V4+VR...
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Old 16th July 2018, 21:31
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Re: Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
1943-05-17, 7./KG 1, Ju 88 A-4, 2555, V4+ER, (Östlich Kursk)
Flugzeugführer Lt Pittschaft, Horst, vermißt
Kampfbeobachter Uffz Blossey, Heinz, vermißt
Bordfunker Uffz Hirrle, Alfred, vermißt
Bordschütze Ofw Kammerer, Richard, vermißt
Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.

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Old 17th July 2018, 08:14
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Re: Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
Harrison
Is the WNr verified on the find from 2016? From where does the code V4+VR originate in such a case? Misreading or misprint?

Leo/Matti
Does your sources verify the code for WNr 8721?

Matti
I have noticed you sometimes use the word Kampbeobachter instead of the standard word Beobachter. Were there actually any difference between these functions, or is the word Kampf more of an honorary title? After all the actual work must have been pretty much the same.

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Old 17th July 2018, 09:45
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Re: Ju88 A-4 W. Nr. 8721 V4+VR - lost over Russia - any further info?
I have no code for 8721. No casualties and therefore no NVM.

Obviously no difference in functions between Beobachter and Kampfbeobachter in the aircraft, but very probably different training. "Real" Beobachter seems to be better trained.
I kick the ball to our German members.

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Old 17th July 2018, 11:16
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Thanks Matti

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