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Old 3rd February 2011, 13:02
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V1 flying bombs shot down by the 68 Sqn

Hello everyone !
Is there anyone expert in the destruction of V1 flying bombs? Seeking details of the destruction of V1 flying bombs 68 Squadron RAF.
09/07/44 - F/O Wild - F/O Baker - destroyed 1 flynig bomb
- P/O Williams - P/O Waples - destroyed 1 flynig bomb
18/07/44 - P/O Williams - P/O Waples - destroyed 1 flynig bomb
19/07/44 - F/O Gibson - Sgt Lack - destroyed 1 flynig bomb
06/10/44 - F/O Haskell - P/O Bentley - destroyed 1 flynig bomb
07/10/44 - F/O Humphrey - F/O Robertson - destroyed 2 flynig bombs
14/10/44 - F/O Haskell - P/O Bentley - destroyed 2 flynig bombs
19/10/44 - F/Sgt Bullus - F/O Edwards - destroyed 1 flynig bomb
- W/O Lauchlan - F/Sgt Bailey - destroyed 2 flynig bombs
- F/O Gibson - Sgt Lack - destroyed 1 flynig bomb
24/10/44 - S/Ldr Wright - F/O McCulloch - destroyed 2 flynig bombs
I am grateful for the slightest information. Please help.
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Pavel (68Sqn)
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Old 3rd February 2011, 20:25
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Re: V1 flying bombs shot down by the 68 Sqn

Paval,
You need to check the book by Brian Cull titled Diver! Diver! Diver! (or as I sometimes refer to it, Diver Factorial Cubed). It lists all air-to-air claims against the V-1, with many descriptions from combat reports.

(Just thought I would save Brian the effort of having to reference himself).

Enjoy!

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Old 3rd February 2011, 22:06
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Hi Frank
Thank you for the inspiration. I will try to do something about it.
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Pavel
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Old 6th February 2011, 19:05
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Re: V1 flying bombs shot down by the 68 Sqn

Hello Pavel,

please find 68 sqn claims against V-1 below. Source is B. Cull, B. Lander book (Diver, Diver, Diver), Grub Street, 2008.

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9/10 May 1944
A.B. Harvey/B.StJ. Wynell-Sutherland MM683? 1 V-1
9/10 July 1944
G. Wild / R.W. Dalton Mosquito XVII HK241 1 V-1
M.N. Williams / F.F. Baker Mosquito XVII HK24? 1 V-1
9/10 July 1944
M.N. Williams / A.G. Waples Mosquito XVII HK242 1 V-1
19/20 July 1944
G. T. Gibson / B.M. Lack Mosquito XVII HK294 1 V-1
23/24 July 1944
A.B. Harvey/B.StJ. Wynell-Sutherland Mosquito XVII NT364 1 V-1
24/25 July 1944
F.J. Kemp / J. Farrar Mosquito XVII MM679 1 V-1 (crew FTR)
26/27 July 1944
M.J. Mansfeld / S. Janacek Mosquito XVII MM683 1 V-1
29/30 July 1944
J. Adam / F. Gemrod Mosquito XVII 1 V-1
15/16 August 1944
A.B. Harvey/B.StJ. Wynell-Sutherland Mosquito XVII 2 V-1
8/9 September 1944
A.B. Harvey/B.StJ. Wynell-Sutherland Mosquito XVII 1 V-1
20/21 September 1944
T. Wilson / J. F. Jenkins Mosquito XVII HK345 1 V-1
28/29 September 1944
H. Humphreys / P.A. Robertson Mosquito XVII 1 V-1
6/7 October 1944
J.H. Haskell / J. Bentley Mosquito XVII HK241 1 V-1
8/9 October 1944
H. Humphreys / P.A. Robertson Mosquito XVII HK344 2 V-1
14/15 October 1944
J.H. Haskell / J. Bentley Mosquito XVII HK344 2 V-1
18/19 October 1944
A. Bullus / L.W. Edwards Mosquito XVII HK237 1 V-1
19/20 October 1944
G. T. Gibson / B.M. Lack Mosquito XVII HK294 1 V-1
D. Lauchan / H. Bailey Mosquito XVII HK294 2 V-1
24/25 October 1944
J.D. Wright / W.H. McCulloch Mosquito XVII HK347 2 V-1
25/26 October 1944
M.J. Mansfeld / S. Janacek Mosquito XVII MM683 1 V-1
F.W. Peebles / D. Grinndal Mosquito XVII HK344 1 V-1


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Ahoj Davide!
Thanks for the comprehensive answer. You really helped me
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Old 10th February 2011, 11:43
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This list is based on the book B. Cull, Diver Diver Diver. At first sight somehow strange. The very first item 9 / 10 May 1944 A.B. Harvey / B.StJ. Wynell-Sutherland MM683? 1-1 How to shoot Harvey V1 about a month before the Germans began to shoot against Britain? The slow Beaufighter? Harvey is there something suspicious, often without proper recognition of the downing. Where there married F / Lt R.W. Dalton? The Personnel Report 68 Sqn Occurence not. Does not operate at 604 or the 25 Sqn? Etc
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Re: V1 flying bombs shot down by the 68 Sqn

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The very first item 9 / 10 May 1944 A.B. Harvey / B.StJ. Wynell-Sutherland MM683? 1-1 How to shoot Harvey V1 about a month before the Germans began to shoot against Britain? The slow Beaufighter?
Hi,

Very probably finger troubles, with correct month July, and resulting replies to your questions.

Michal
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Old 10th February 2011, 13:53
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This is a possible explanation. Then there is 23 / 24 July 1944
A.B. Harvey / B.StJ. Wynell-Sutherland Mosquito XVII NT364 1-1. Brand Mosquito NT364 is NF.Mk.XXX. Mosquitoes NF.MK.XXX 68Sqn got up in February 1945. Mosquito NT 364 owned 157 Sqn. I'm not an expert, get 157Sqn Mosquito NF.MK.XXX also up in February 1945?
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Yes, 157 Sqn used Mk.30 from 02/45.
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Old 10th February 2011, 23:22
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Re: V1 flying bombs shot down by the 68 Sqn

Hello Pavel,

the date for the very first V-1 claim by 68 sqn (Harvey / Wynell - Sutherland) is given in B. Cull book as written in the list above (9/10 MAY 1944) and is recorded as a second ever submitted by Allied pilot. The first is recorded the previous night (8/9 MAY) by Tempest pilot R. E. Barckley, 3 sqn, Tempest JN755.

The crew was probably flying Beaufigher at that time, but the serial given in the book is MM683 corresponding to Mosquito (S/Ldr M. Mansfeld personal machine in late 1944).

The explanation of these early claims is that the crews probably encountered V-1 released during firing tests before the main attack in June 1944 started.

The list in the book is very comprehensive and accounts even the claims given only in published memories of various pilots. For example the claims for Czechs M.A. Liskutin (DFC, AFC) a F. Mares (DFM) are given in the book, but are not supported in any official Czech document. To be more complicated it seems that IWM holds record of combat film footage of F. Mares attacking V-1 on July 9, 1944.

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