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Old 6th June 2014, 05:51
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French testing of German aircraft

Can anyone recommend a book, bibliography or report about the late-war/post-war French testing of Me262, He162, He274 or Do335 aircraft? Or the use of Fw190 (NC-900) or Ju88/188 by the AdlA? Optimistically - in English?

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Old 6th June 2014, 10:23
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Re: French testing of German aircraft

There is this book, but in French:
http://www.amazon.fr/avions-allemand.../dp/2950948553

I don't have it, so can say anything about it.

As for former German aircraft used by the French, I will also include Fi 156 and Ju 52.

Concerning the Fw 190, the well-known regiment "Normandie-Niemen" was psot-war equiped with it for some time.

Captured Ju 88 were used for recon and bombing missions against the German pockets on the Atlantic coast, with some losses.

Captured Fi 156 were used in the Alps in spring 1945 to fly recon, supply drops and also attack enemy positions with grenades and so on.
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Old 6th June 2014, 12:02
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Re: French testing of German aircraft

According to Eric Brown, he flew an Ar240 that was under French control, but it doesn't appear in any list of types officially flown by the French that I've seen.
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Re: French testing of German aircraft

Thereis Philippe Couderchon’s 2-part article on the French use of He 162 in April and May 2006 Aeroplane, a British aviation magazine. Backnumbers maybe still available, the magazine has web-pages.

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Re: French testing of German aircraft

Thanks Gents.

Laurent: I'm aware of the Airdocs Collections book. Had a chance to thumb through it 10 years ago, but my command of the French language - although restaurant-sufficient then, was/is not sufficient to have warranted the cost of the book.

Graham: good call. I'd forgotten about Eric Brown. I'll look up some of his articles in Air International.

Juha: thanks, I have that article in storage, along with the series on the Dornier 335. Now if I could only remember which box in the garage those magazines are sitting in!

The books on Watson's Whizzers are great reads as well. As entertaining are the anecdotes on the inter-Allied skulduggery on how to sneak in first and grab a prize before your rivals (i.e. between the US, UK and French science/engineering teams), which meant occasionally you got there just as the German forces were pulling out (occasionally before).

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Careful there are no 'nasties' hiding in/around those boxes.
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Re: French testing of German aircraft

Dear All,

I have the book to which Laurent refers: Les avions allemands aux couleurs françaises, Tome 2, by Philippe RICCO. It is a photo book with somewhat limited text, although more than just captions. The number of aircraft covered is extensive:

Klemm
RAAB-Katzensyein Kl Ic Schwalbe II
Rohrbach Ro 10 "Romar"
Planeurs

Ju 52 (AAC-I "Toucan"
Ju 86
Ju 88 (AAB-I)
Ju 188
Ju 488 (Latécoère)

Klemm L25
Klemm L32
Klemm L35B

Bf 108 (Nord N-1000, 1001, 1002 "Pingouin)
Bf 109
Bf 110
Me 163
Me 208 (Nord N-1100, 1101, 1104, 1110 "Noralpha", "Ramier")
Me 262

Si 204 (NC-700, 701, 702 "Martinet"

Zeppelin ZSO 523 (SNCASO)

DFS 108-14 SG-38
DFS 108-49 Grnau Baby (Nord 1300 "Norbaby")
DFS 108-30 Kranich
DFS 108-68 Weihe (VMA 200 "Milan")
DFS 108-70 Miese (Nord 2000 "Norplane")
Göppingen Gö 1 Wolf
Göppingen Gö 3 Minimoa
Göppingen Gö 4 Goevier
München Mü 13
Schleicher Rhonbussard
Autres planeurs

Bölkow
Do 27
Do 28
Do 228
Do 328
VFW 614
Répliques
Planeurs

Ar 234
Do 24
Do 217
Fw 190 "long nez"
Go 146
Gö IV Goevier et PM 200
He 219
Ju 87

Motors allemands sur avions françaises

ATAR
Arsenal de l’Aéronautique : DFS 346 et statoréacteurs
SNCASE: ailes volantes et hélicoptères
Secteur spatial et Engins

Additions et corrections au Tome I
AEG G.IV
Albatros D.1
Fokker D.VII
He 111
He 162
He 177
He 274
Junkers F13
Junkers J9
Pfalz D.XII
Zeppelin C.IV-I
"L'avion mystère"

At the end is a color photo and color profile section.

I purchased my copy from Lela Presse, the publisher, about 2003. The website back then was www.avionsbateaux.com.

I don't have Tome 1.

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Richard
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Re: French testing of German aircraft

Roger Receveau's account of testing the He 274 and Do 335 is reproduced (in French) on Jean Houben's wonderful site "histoires d'aviateurs.." - if a Frenchman has flown it, there's a report here...

The French even tested (on the ground) the explosive bolt system designed to jettison the Do 335's rear prop for pilot bail out - needless to say, "it proved totally ineffective.."


http://aviateurs.e-monsite.com/pages...bizartres.html

the Lela Presse website is http://www.avions-bateaux.com/

they have an NC 900 title in preparation
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