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Old 13th August 2019, 16:25
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Two Caudrons to Identify

Hello,

Currently for sale on ebay at:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...UAAOSwug5dUbsI

is a photo containing a DH.84? and two Caudrons. I believe the Caudrons may be C.690M and C.870 P2, but I am uncertain. Can anyone please assist with the identity of these aircraft?

TIA,

Clint
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Old 13th August 2019, 17:31
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

This seller is a bit naughty. Seen a few of his offerings before. So beware.
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Old 13th August 2019, 17:33
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

Hi Snautzer,

I wasn't thinking of bidding. I'm just curious about the ID of the machines.

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Clint
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Old 13th August 2019, 17:40
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

Hi Clint - The two Caudrons are indeed a C.690 and the rare C.870. The De Havilland is a DH 89A
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Old 13th August 2019, 17:48
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the confirmation. I was a bit unsure about the id of the DH as well so good to have the correct id for that machine too.

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Clint
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Old 14th August 2019, 14:03
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

Hello,

Two possibilities for the anonymous D.H. 89A Dragon Rapide:

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/28346

and ...

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/205381

See also: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=22844

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Old 15th August 2019, 10:46
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

Good points Col

Indeed it is possible to see a tiny hint of a G (its registration) in the photo, so I am with you with regard to it being an impressed aircraft.

Also admit I was too lazy to start and try to track it down....

Cheers
Stig

PS: Checking my French sources for the C.870 they say both were evacuated to Orleans-Bricy on 9 June 1940 and where No 01 was captured by the Germans. No 02 was moved to Biarritz where it was found in 1941. So far only No 01 seems to have been confirmed in use by Luftwaffe
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Old 15th August 2019, 12:21
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

Hello

C.870 No 02 was also captured by germans on june 1940 at Orléans-Bricy. There's pictures of it amongst others aircrafts captured at Orléans-Bricy.
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Old 15th August 2019, 13:12
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

Interesting Stéphane

How certain is that ID? I have never seen a photo myself where either No 01 or 02 are visible. Two different French books state 02 was relocated to Biarritz and found there in 1941.

Do you have a photo where the digits are visible and where we can see it is a German photo??

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Old 15th August 2019, 17:14
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Re: Two Caudrons to Identify

Sadly I have no photo where the digits are visible, but No 01 has a retractable landing gear, No 2 a fixed landing gear.

I have found this pictures a long time ago on a forum now closed.
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