JU52's at Leros 1943

[Peter Vrolijk]

Can someone help me what JU52 unit dropped 1/Fallschirmjaher Regiment 2 on 12 November 1943 on Leros ?
How many planes were involved?
How many were sho down ?
Other info is also most welcome !

[byron-]

Hallo Peter,


The units were 2 and 6./TG 4 and 1./TG 2
4 planes lost
I do`nt know the total number but i have an Info about the number of the paras (in german)

3 Staffeln X 12 planes, 36 planes... maybe, they flew towice a day


Das I. Btl. des 2. Rgts. wurde am 12.11.1943 von Ferrara nach Tatoi/Athen überführt
und nahm mit 470 Fallschirmjägern an der Eroberung der Insel Leros teil (Operation "Leopard").
Das Btl. blieb bis zum 18.01.44 auf den Inseln und kehrte am 18.01.1944 nach Italien zurück.
Kdr., Hptm. Martin Kühne, (auch auf Kreta bei der 1. Kp. dabei).
Adj. Oblt. Othmar Lichy, gef. 12.11.43, Na.Fü., Ltn. Werner Schukraft, gef. 14.11.43
Btls.Arzt, U.Arzt Felix Katersohn, gef. 12.11.43


1.Kp., Kp.Chef, Oblt. Haase


2.Kp., Kp.Chef, Oblt. Fellner

3.Kp., Kp.Chef, .......sperrte die Strasse Alina-Bucht - Stadt Leros

4.Kp., Kp.Chef, Oblt. Eberhard Möller-Astheimer
Zugf., Ltn. Hans Illig, gef. 12.11.43

5.Kp., Kp.Chef, Oblt. Raabe



best regards from Hellas


Byron

[Peter Vrolijk]

Thanks Byron.
Kompanie kommandeur of the 3rd Kompanie was Oblt. Raabe (the battalion had no 5th Kompanie).

[byron-]

Jes Peter,

I agree with Oblt. Raabe, Kp.Chef 3. Kp.;
I recieved recently a discription of the fights on Leros from a veteran Falli,
he is confirming your position, there was no 5th Kp.

regards Byron

[Steve49]

Peter

I don't know if you've read 'Churchill's Folly' by Anthony Rogers, but this is a pretty detailed English language account of the 1943 Aegean fighting.

For I./Fallschirmager-Rgt,2 it confirms the commanders for 1, 2 and 4 Kompanies, but doesn't identify the one for 3 Kompanie.

As for the Ju52/3 operations, it gives the number as about 36 aircraft for the parachute drop on the 12th November (apparently elements of I/TG4 and II/TG4). Only one transport was lost on this day (Identified as Wnr 6763 from I/TG4- three killed and one recovered)

During follow up parachute operations on the 13th two more transports were lost (both from II/TG4; Wnr 640187 - All crew ok and 6799 - one killed, one taken prisoner and three ok)

On the 14th one more transport was shotdown (from II/TG2 - Wnr 7607 -two killed) and another was badly damaged, but able to return (from II/TG2 - Wnr4046 - one killed).

Regards

Steve Pegge

[rickback4444]

Hi,

Can anyone provide crew members of Ju 52 that was lost on 12th November 1943?

I am looking for. Ernst Stadlmayr who was lost on this day.

Thanks

Rick

[Matti Salonen]

1943-11-12, FFS B 7, C 445, 380, RL+YK, Saint-Priest, östlich Clermont-Ferrand
Flugschüler Fw Stadlmayr, Ernst, +
Flugschüler Fw Gunter, Franz, verletzt
Bordfunker Uffz Kämpf, Werner, +
Unfreiwillige Bodenberührung infolge Bedienungsfehler. Bruch 95 %.

Matti

[gogh]

"1943-11-12, FFS B 7, C 445, 380, RL+YK" I have this as RC+YK

[Rottler]

Hello Rick,

Gen.Qu. loss return 12 Dec 1943 and correction from 17 Oct 1944:
12.11. I./TG 4 Feindflug, Ort: bei Insel Leros, Ursache: nicht gemeldet (Feindbeobachtet), Ju 52 6763 100%.
F Lt Günther, Helmut +
B Fw Mahr, Hans +
Bf Uffz Näpflein, Fritz verletzt
Bs Lt Bockelmann, Werner +.

Regards
Leo

[ju55dk]

RC+YK is a C 445 A-1 Wnr. 380
Junker