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Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
On 10 June 1944, Lt. Addi Glunz brought down three Mustangs within two minutes time. After shooting down the first, two more Mustangs suddenly appeared from the clouds right in front of Glunz's Focke-Wulf and with some kicking on the rudder he sprayed both of them with cannon fire to good effect.
Does anybody know... - which Mustangs were involved (type, unit, serials)? - what Fw 190 Glunz was flying that day? Many thanks & Happy Newyear!
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
As per Caldwell in volume 2 of "The JG 26 War Diary", they were in fact P-47s of the 365th FG. Only one of the three received official confirmation.
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
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That's funny though... I got the info from Calwell's JG26 War Diary (June 1993 edition) and wanted to know more. I never knew a volume 2 existed. I will go and get it ASAP Thanks! [edit] Ordered! I found out there also is a volume 1, but I'm mostly interested in the last year of the war anyway... [/edit]
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
Ronnie,
You were mixing up Top Guns with the War Diaries. JG 26 Top Guns of the Luftwaffe JG 26 Photographic History of the Luftwaffe's Top Guns The JG 26 War Diary Volume One 1939-1942 The JG 26 War Diary Volume Two 1943-1945 Judging by the edit you've figured that out yourself as well!
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
You're right, Ruy, I did mix em up
Top Guns is a fascinating read. Looking forward to volume 2 of the diary and will possibly buy volume 1 later. My main interest at this point is encounters between Fw 190 A-8/9s and P-51Ds.
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
Got the book. Very nice as it adds a lot more info, but still it doesn't have all the details I hoped for. For instance it doesn't say which aircraft the pilot was flying when scoring victories and generally doesn't have specific info about the aircraft shot down rather than basic type and fighter group. In most cases perhaps this info wouldn't be avialable anyway, but it would have been nice tohave been included wherever it was.
For instance I am interested in the aircraft Ottomar Kruse shot down on 16 August 1944. I know it's a P-51D from 354th FG, but from which squadron? And possibly, which exact a/c and who was the pilot? Does anybody know or is there a way to find out? Many thanks in advance!
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
According to 354th History , there were 4 pilots shot down 8-16-44.
356th Sq. lost 2 pilots , name , location unknown. 353d Sq. lost 2. Lt. Ken Dahlberg bailed, evaded. Near Maintenon Lt. Charles Brown bailed, evaded. Near Maintenon Hope this helps. |
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
According to records the 78th FG lost 9 A/C that day , 4 at Argentan , Fr.
8th Fighter command lost 25 A/C total. Tough day. |
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
Excellent info, thanks!
Maintenon is directly below Rambouillet forest where the fighting took place and the two losses compare well with the two confirmed claims from JG 26. One strange thing... the JG 26 book states the claims being made at 1532 and 1435 respectively. Since a dogfight normally doesn't last an hour, I am sure one of them is a typo. I think we've got a match! Thanks! One more thing... does the 354th history make any mention of victory claims? One JG 26 machine was shot down in this encounter. .
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Re: Addi Glunz's three Mustangs in two minutes (10 June 1944)
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