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Old 3rd March 2006, 19:27
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NJG 6 during night July 21/22 1944

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does somebody know more about NJG 6 operations during night July 21/22 1944? According to Tony Wood´s site, pilots of III./NJG 6 claimed two Wellingtons and 1 DC-3 (?). It seems to be planes shot down during raid on Fanto Refinery in Pardubice, Eastern Bohemia over Bohemia and Moravia. I know about crashes only 2 Wellingtons

Vickers Wellington B.Mk.X, JA 521, 231. BW, 37. BS, pilot F/O Francis B. Newmarch, 5 KIA nearby village Stošíkovice na Louce, district Znojmo (Znaim). Plane was recovered in 1990.

Vickers Wellington B.Mk.X, LP 204, 330. BW, 150. BS, pilot F/Sgt. Frederick E. Palmer, 5 KIA nearby village Němčičky u Mikulovic, district Znojmo

But I know that day 205th RAF Bomber Group lost all in all 6 bombers. So, my questions are:

1) does somebody know what were other RAF Bombers lost during night July 21/22 1944?

2) does somebody know what are sharp destination of following quadrats:

14 Ost N/DM-4, 14 Ost N/OQ-29, 14 Ost N/BM-6

3) does somebody know something about NJG 6 actions during night?

Thank you for reply
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Old 3rd March 2006, 21:15
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Re: NJG 6 during night July 21/22 1944

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pilots of III./NJG 6 claimed two Wellingtons and 1 DC-3 (?).
Could the "DC-3" be a Soviet airplane? Just a thought...
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Old 4th March 2006, 00:53
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Re: NJG 6 during night July 21/22 1944

I would agree with Denes. The DC - 3 was most likely a Russian Lend Lease C - 47. Just saw a picture of one in a Russian Museum.
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Old 4th March 2006, 16:54
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Re: NJG 6 during night July 21/22 1944

Thanks. And what about locations (planquadrat) and loss of other planes of 205th RAF BG?
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Old 4th March 2006, 20:44
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Re: NJG 6 during night July 21/22 1944

Hello Michal,

the third (and last) Wellington lost over the Czech territory that night was LN699 (C) of 70 Sqn which crashed-landed near Semín in Přelouč area. Complete crew of Lt. N.K. Weekes taken POW. Allegedly victim of Oblt. Helmut Schulte of III./NJG 6.

The other losses were:

Wellington MK. X, LN808, QT-B, 142 Sqn, disappeared already en-route to targe, possibly near St. Pölten area. The complete crew of P/O E. Golloway listed as MIA. Possibly victim of Oblt. Josef Kraft of III./NJG 6.

Wellington Mk. X, LP301, BL-A, 40 Sqn, crashed due to mechanical trouble in the Adriatic sea, complete crew of Sgt R. Bodley baled out off Porto San Giorgio and rescued.

Liberator Mk. VI EW167(B), 34 Sqn SAAF, crashed near Klagenfurt, crew of Lt. K.A. Patton KIA.

Source: J. Rajlich, Mustangy nad Protektorátem

Hope this helps a little,

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Old 4th March 2006, 21:13
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Re: NJG 6 during night July 21/22 1944

Díky Oto,

Thanks. I know this book.

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Thanks. And what about locations (planquadrat) and loss of other planes of 205th RAF BG?
Hi Michal,
On my WEB-site there is an explanation of the system and an on-line coordinate converter with and Operators Manual. If you have difficulties, please contact me direct.
Please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/reporting_grids.htm
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Old 7th March 2006, 18:13
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Thanks everybody for reply.

Dear Gyges,

I have visited your web page several times but I didn´t read carefully. Now I understood - thanks your page - Jägergradnetz system. It took me some time but for future I am ready to know what locations are hidden behind these codes.

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Hallo,

does somebody know more about NJG 6 operations during night July 21/22 1944? According to Tony Wood´s site, pilots of III./NJG 6 claimed two Wellingtons and 1 DC-3 (?). It seems to be planes shot down during raid on Fanto Refinery in Pardubice, Eastern Bohemia over Bohemia and Moravia. I know about crashes only 2 Wellingtons

Vickers Wellington B.Mk.X, JA 521, 231. BW, 37. BS, pilot F/O Francis B. Newmarch, 5 KIA nearby village Stošíkovice na Louce, district Znojmo (Znaim). Plane was recovered in 1990.

Vickers Wellington B.Mk.X, LP 204, 330. BW, 150. BS, pilot F/Sgt. Frederick E. Palmer, 5 KIA nearby village Němčičky u Mikulovic, district Znojmo

But I know that day 205th RAF Bomber Group lost all in all 6 bombers. So, my questions are:

1) does somebody know what were other RAF Bombers lost during night July 21/22 1944?

2) does somebody know what are sharp destination of following quadrats:

14 Ost N/DM-4, 14 Ost N/OQ-29, 14 Ost N/BM-6

3) does somebody know something about NJG 6 actions during night?

Thank you for reply
I know about another one - it was shot down near Semin, near Prelouc. 10km east from Pardubice. In the evening I will write more...
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