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Old 14th December 2007, 18:19
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A true stroy and a wonderful story

This is a true story, the two men attended a long time World War Two event in Reading PA. A friend of ours had the wonderful opportunity to speak to them both a few years ago at Reading.


Charlie Brown was a B-17 Flying Fortress pilot with the 379th Bomber Group atKimbolton,England. His B-17 was called 'Ye Old Pub' and was in a terrible state, having been hit by flak and fighters. The compass was damaged and they were flying deeper over enemy territory instead of heading home to Kimbolton.

After flying over an enemy airfield, a German pilot named Franz Steigler was ordered to take off and shoot down the B-17. When he got near the B-17, he could not believe his eyes. In his words, he 'had never seen a plane in such a bad state'. The tail and rear section was severely damaged, and the tail gunner wounded. The top gunner was all over the top of the fuselage. The nose was smashed and there were holes everywhere .

Despite having ammunition, Franz flew to the side of the B-17 and looked at Charlie Brown, the pilot. Brown was scared and struggling to control his damaged and blood-stained plane.

Aware that they had no idea where they were going, Franz waved at Charlie to turn 180 degrees. Franz escorted and guided the stricken plane to and slightly over the North Sea towards England He then saluted Charlie Brown and turned away, back to Europe.

When Franz landed he told the C/O that the plane had been shot down over the sea, and never told the truth to anybody. Charlie Brown and the remains of his crew told all at their briefing, but were ordered never to talk about it.


More than 40 years later, Charlie Brown wanted to find the Luftwaffe pilot who saved the crew. After years of research, Franz was found. He had never talked about the incident, not even at post-war reunions.

They met in the USA at a 379th. Bomber Group reunion, together with 25 people who are alive now - all because Franz never fired his guns that day.
Research shows that Charlie Brown lived in Seattle and Franz Steigler had moved toVancouver, BC after the war. When they finally met, they discovered they had lived less than 200 miles apart for the past 50 years!



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Old 14th December 2007, 21:46
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Re: A true stroy and a wonderful story

Amazing story Thank you for sharing!
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Old 14th December 2007, 21:52
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Re: A true stroy and a wonderful story

I've had dinner with Brown and Stigler. Franz has been a family friend since 1942, when he flew with my uncle in Africa. Having said that, there is some controversy about the details of the B-17 incident, not the least of which is the motivation for a Jagdflieger to spare such a target, given the war situation at the time. Many frankly doubt the entire story. Then there is the situation in Africa regarding Erwin Sawallisch and the faking of claims, and subsequent strange demise of Sawallisch. I believe Stigler was a member of this Schwarm.
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