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Old 13th May 2012, 13:57
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Ofw Kurt Rose , 7./JG51

Hello,
I seek some infos on this pilot, Ofw. Kurt Rose , killed in May 1943 in the 7./JG51.
If someone have infos like erkennungsmarke or photos, it will be great.
Maybe he appeared in photos in certains books (Jagdfliegerverbande ?)
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Fred
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Old 13th May 2012, 17:20
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Oberfeldwebel Kurt Rose

Hello Fred

I can only provide his loss list information.

8 March 1942: Oberfeldwebel Kurt Rose of 8./JG 2, false start in Bf 109 F-2 "Black 17" (W.Nr. 8917) at Théville, 75%
24 February 1943: Oberfeldwebel Kurt Rose of 7./JG 51 injured in Fw 190 A-3 (W.Nr. 0130 234), take-off accident at Orel, 80%
21 May 1943: Oberfeldwebel Kurt Rose of 7./JG 51 killed in Fw 190 A-5 (W.Nr. 0157 355), somersaulted while landing at Sloboda-Nord, 70%

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Old 13th May 2012, 19:47
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Re: Ofw Kurt Rose , 7./JG51

Thanks Leo !
If someone have the information about Kurt Rose in the VLM of JG51, it would be sympathic
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Old 20th May 2012, 14:40
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Re: Ofw Kurt Rose , 7./JG51

It's me again...
there is a problem : Kurt Rose Killed the 31 may 1943 or the 21 may 1943 ?
And i dicovered in JG51 victory list a Ofw Rose, but name Eberhard Rose...so Eberhard or Kurt?
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Old 20th May 2012, 19:20
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Oberfeldwebel Eberhard Rose

Hello Fred

I looked at the loss list included in the Anders and Held book on JG 51 and an Oberfeldwebel Eberhard Rose is mentioned as having been killed on 31 May 1943 due to Überschlag bei Landung. Could this be the same fellow as Oberfeldwebel Kurt Rose and the date of 21 May 1943 is a typographical error? Perhaps Matti Salonen or Jim Perry could help out here? I also noticed that an Oberfeldwebel Eberhard Rose of 7./JG 52 is credited with a victory on 22 February 1943 as per Wood so perhaps he may have actually claimed two victories and not zero as per the Anders and Held book. Another detail included in this source is that he was born in 1914.

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Old 21st May 2012, 19:29
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Re: Ofw Kurt Rose , 7./JG51

Helo Fredo,

this is from NVM:
Ofw Kurt Rose, born 19.01.1914, KIFA 31. May 1943 at Feldflugplatz Slowotzki (Pl.Q. 64771) in Fw 190 A-5 Werknummer 7355, white 4.

His a/c somersaulted after Feindflug when landing short of the airfield and hitting a ditch.
He was burried at "Heldenfriedhof Orlyat".

The NVM reports the date 31. May 1943 twice and was filed 2nd June 1943.

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Old 22nd May 2012, 16:07
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Re: Ofw Kurt Rose , 7./JG51

Thanks Carl and Leo !
Carl, is there the erkennungsmarke in the NVM ? I would like verify if the Kurt Rose of the JG51 is the same Kurt Rose of the JG2. His ekm must be something like 53518/...
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Old 22nd May 2012, 18:27
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Re: Ofw Kurt Rose , 7./JG51

Hello Fredo,

Erkennungsmarke is 53519 Nr. 34

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Old 22nd May 2012, 23:00
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Re: Ofw Kurt Rose , 7./JG51

Thanks so much Carl !
I have no doubt now....
Merci beaucoup
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