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Old 16th December 2022, 01:54
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

Journal of Combat Operations 234 IAD (TsAMO, F: 368, O. 0006476, D. 0336: L: 16, page 6)

23 February 1944
At 15:30 4 Yak-9 (157 IAP) under command of Hero of the Soviet Union Starshiy Leytenant Mikhail Baranov in the area of Tesnoe conducted an air battle with 30 Ju 87 under cover of 8 Fw 190 at a height of 150 meters. Having broken into pairs, our fighters entered into battle with the Ju 87, but they themselves were attacked by 4 Fw 190. The Fw 190 attacks was repulsed by the pair of Koznacheev. The second four Fw 190 attacked the pair of Koznacheev, but without results. Koznacheev went out with a climb towards the sun and an advantage in altitude of 1000 m. attacked a pair of Fw 190 from behind from a distance of 180 - 150 meters and shooting down the wingman. The wingman of Koznacheev, Brodokiy at a distance of 100-50 meters shot down the wingman of the second pair. In this battle was damaged two of our aircraft. The crews were unharmed.

St. Lt. Mikhail Baranov 157 IAP
23 February 44 Ju 87 (14) SW of Lake Svyatoye
23 February 44 Ju 87 (15) Rogachevo (Rahachow, Belarus)
(I have no idea if these are confirmed in German losses)

Obfw. Heinrich Dittlmann 7/JG 51. Yak-7 (59) 13:48 at PlQu. 94834 at 1100 m.
(As stated there were no Soviet losses, only damaged. As Dittlmann died on this mission, this was probably written up by his comrades as a final victory.)

Collision in the air, enemy flight, Rogatschew
Dittlmann (missing) Fw 190 A-5 (2555) 100 %
Objobfw Otto Würfew (Perished as a POW) Fw 190 A-5 (2599) 100%

So was these two German losses actually shot down by Koznacheev and Brodokiy (I don’t have their rank and first names)
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

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Journal of Combat Operations 234 IAD (TsAMO, F: 368, O. 0006476, D. 0336: L: 16, page 6)

23 February 1944
At 15:30 4 Yak-9 (157 IAP) under command of Hero of the Soviet Union Starshiy Leytenant Mikhail Baranov in the area of Tesnoe conducted an air battle with 30 Ju 87 under cover of 8 Fw 190 at a height of 150 meters. Having broken into pairs, our fighters entered into battle with the Ju 87, but they themselves were attacked by 4 Fw 190. The Fw 190 attacks was repulsed by the pair of Koznacheev. The second four Fw 190 attacked the pair of Koznacheev, but without results. Koznacheev went out with a climb towards the sun and an advantage in altitude of 1000 m. attacked a pair of Fw 190 from behind from a distance of 180 - 150 meters and shooting down the wingman. The wingman of Koznacheev, Brodokiy at a distance of 100-50 meters shot down the wingman of the second pair. In this battle was damaged two of our aircraft. The crews were unharmed.

St. Lt. Mikhail Baranov 157 IAP
23 February 44 Ju 87 (14) SW of Lake Svyatoye
23 February 44 Ju 87 (15) Rogachevo (Rahachow, Belarus)
(I have no idea if these are confirmed in German losses)

Obfw. Heinrich Dittlmann 7/JG 51. Yak-7 (59) 13:48 at PlQu. 94834 at 1100 m.
(As stated there were no Soviet losses, only damaged. As Dittlmann died on this mission, this was probably written up by his comrades as a final victory.)

Collision in the air, enemy flight, Rogatschew
Dittlmann (missing) Fw 190 A-5 (2555) 100 %
Objobfw Otto Würfew (Perished as a POW) Fw 190 A-5 (2599) 100%

So was these two German losses actually shot down by Koznacheev and Brodokiy (I don’t have their rank and first names)
Hi Michael.
The names are wrongly spelled.
It's Str. Lt. Nikolay Fedorovich Kaznacheev, it was his 7+15 claim of a future total of 11+18 claims.
His wingman was Lt. Nikolay Arturovich Brodskiy, it was his 4+2 of an eventual 14+2 total claims.
As usual, thanks for the info.

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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

Thanks Paulo for the corrections of the names. That was actually how the report had them spelled but only on occasion find them misspelled in Russian reports.
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

Can anyone verify that Mikhail Baranov’s claims for 2 Ju 87 on the 23 February 1944 match German loss revords.
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

Journal of Combat Operations 221 BAD 01.03.44 to 31.03.44
TsAMO, F: 20210, O. 1, D. 43, L:31 page 19-21

29 March 1944
5 Boston of 57 BAP led by Kapt. Abazadze approached there target (not stated in the journal but probably in the area of Kutnya - Davydovichi, Belarus Obl). They were attacked by 12-18 Fw 190. The Boston flown by Leytenant Afonin (?) was shot down and the Boston of Mladshiy Leytenant Dubotol returned smoking.

Lt. Kurt Löffler Stab I/JG 51 Boston (8) 16:35 35 Ost N/04462 at 1800 m.
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Journal of Combat Operations 221 BAD 01.03.44 to 31.03.44
TsAMO, F: 20210, O. 1, D. 43, L:31 page 19-21

29 March 1944
5 Boston of 57 BAP led by Kapt. Abazadze approached there target (not stated in the journal but probably in the area of Kutnya - Davydovichi, Belarus Obl). They were attacked by 12-18 Fw 190. The Boston flown by Leytenant Afonin (?) was shot down and the Boston of Mladshiy Leytenant Dubotol returned smoking.

Lt. Kurt Löffler Stab I/JG 51 Boston (8) 16:35 35 Ost N/04462 at 1800 m.
That wovld be the crew of (P) Leytenant Vladimir Aleksandrovich Afonin, (Bom/G) Serzhant Mikhail Fedorovich Dernovsky and (ROp/G) Starshiy Serzhant Galyakbara Galyautdinovich Galyautdinov.
The pilot bailed out and returned to unit, but the other crew members perished in the crash, near Propoisk (Slawharad or Slavgorod (since 1945), about 70km SE of Mogilev), Belarus.
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

Journal of Combat Operations 3 BAK 01.03.44 - 31.03.44
TsAMO, F: 2513, O: 1, D: 38, L: 48 page 33-35
Journal of Combat Operations 54 BAP
TsAMO, F: 22139, O: 0210559s, D: 0002, L. 1 page 64

29 March 1944
Pe-2 bombers of the 54 BAP (with attached Pe-2 from 779 BAP) led by Kapt. Kupyil bombed in the area of Kutnya - Davydovichi (18:24 - 18:27 (M) at 2000 m and encountered German AAA. As they began withdrawing 4 Fw 190 and 2 Bf 109 attacked. The Pe-2 (4/141) of 54 BAP flown by Ml. Lt. Igor Khanzhin was shot down by the AAA and crew was listed as MIA. The fighter escort of the 8 IAP were tangled up in a dogfight.
The other Soviet losses can by assigned as they were lost.

Lt. Walter Wever 3/JG 51 Pe-2 (33) 16:22 35 Ost N/04289 at 1,500 m
Pe-2 (17/208) 54 BAP Ml. Lt. Mifodiy Mizheev (KIA) fell in the forest, N of Ivanshevichi.

Obfw. Herbert Bareuther 3/JG 51 Pe-2 (30). 16:22 35 Ost N/04424 at 1800 m.
Pe-2 779 BAP Ml. Lt. Aleksandr Chermisnov (MIA)

Lt. Walter Wever 3/JG 51 Pe-2 (34) 16:30 35 Ost N/04442 at 1000 m.
Pe-2 77 BAP Ml. Lt. Ivan Galkin (MIA) area of Bobruysk - Davydovichi
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

This German claim is a little more difficult as I have two sources Prien’s JFV 15/I and Tony Woods list for 1944.
Fw Erich Lingnau (TW has Lingenau) Pe-2 (3) 07:05 (TW has 09:03) 25 Ost N/42563

Journal of Combat Operations 221 BAD 01.03.1944 - 31.03.1944 (TsAMO F: 20210, O.: 1 D:43, L: 31 page 13 -17)

29 March 1944
09:52 (M) 5 Pe-2 from 8 GBAP led by Gds St. Lt. Polikanov bombed German artillery in the forest between Aleksandrov and Lisichnik. At 09:56 - 10:03 attacked by German Fw 190s at 1000 m west of Aleksandrov. The Pe-2 of 8 GBAP flown by Guards Leytenant Ilin and crew go down 12 km east of Bykhov. Listed as missing at the time.

There is a two hour difference in the Russian and German time zones. Considering the mistake in Lingnau (or Lingenau) name there is another problem. Tony Woods time of 09:03 is far after the bombing raid and the Pe-2 went down, no attacks occurred during that time. That leaves Prien’s time of 07:05, which puts it in the right time zone of the attack but another problem occurs. I believe that the 07:05 was probably meant to be 07:55. So is this a problem at the paper work level? Still Lingnau is the only one claiming at this time of the Pe-2 raid.
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

Journal of Combat Operations of the 3 BAK 01.03.44 - 31.03.44
(TsAMO, F:20513, O: 1, D: 38, L. 48 page 28 -29)

26 March 1944
11 Pe-2 from 34 BAP flew at an altitude 1100 m with an escort of 12 Yak-9 to bomb German artillery positions in the area of Koloniya Grudinovka - Sledyuki. They were attacked by German fighters.
Soviet losses from fighter attack:
Pe-2 34 BAP Lt. Aleksandrov
Pe-2 34 BAP Lt. Romanov
Pe-2 34 BAP Kapt. Sapozhnikov

Uffz Günther Josten 1./JG 51
Pe-2 (85) 12:40 04556 at 2300 m.
Pe-2 (86). 12:50. 04725 at 2000 m

Lt. Gerhard Mai 1/JG 51 Pe-2 (8) 12:53. 04595 ar 1000 m.

Hope everyone enjoyed the JG 51 posts for March 1944. Merry Christmas!
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

Hello

According Mathews/Foreman,it's Fw.Erich LINGAU
29/03/44=Pe-2 (3.) 20km N Lubomi

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