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Old 6th January 2022, 12:32
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Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

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Apologies for the error in the thread title - I think spell-check got me.

Does anyone happen to know the rank and full name of Bordfunker 'Pohl', who flew with Karl-Hermann Lion during the Battle of France and Battle of Britain in 1940? In France the unit was still designated I.(St)/186(T) but this would change to III./StG 1 in the summer of 1940.

Any help much appreciated
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Old 6th January 2022, 12:48
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

In III/St.G 1 was:
1941-04-14, 7./St.G 1, Ju 87 R-2, 5874, J9+CH, Bei Tobruk
Flugzeugführer Lt Martinz, Hans, gefangen
Bordfunker Uffz Pohl, Helmut, gefangen
Notlandung jenseits. Bruch 100 %.

Maybe your Pohl?

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Old 6th January 2022, 13:13
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

Lion was Ia of III./StG 1 and Lt Hans Martinz the Adj. 6 Jan 41 Lion was reported in hospital so it is probable that Pohl was flying with Martinz on 14 Apr 41. Lion took command of 9./StG 1 after the death of Oblt Ulrich Heinze on 9 May 41. I./186 became III./StG 1 around 2 Jul 40
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Old 6th January 2022, 15:12
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

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Originally Posted by Matti Salonen View Post
In III/St.G 1 was:
1941-04-14, 7./St.G 1, Ju 87 R-2, 5874, J9+CH, Bei Tobruk
Flugzeugführer Lt Martinz, Hans, gefangen
Bordfunker Uffz Pohl, Helmut, gefangen
Notlandung jenseits. Bruch 100 %.

Maybe your Pohl?

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Matti/Chris

MAW Vol 1 page 158 says this belonged to Stab III./St.G. 1

They also have three further Stukas lost or damaged, without giving any WNr.
Are they unknown?
1) T6+JM shot down, crew POW
2) nothing except gunner Lt Erich Hummel baled out and became POW
3) nothing except crash landed and Uffz Heinrich Kroll WIA

Do you by any chance have any further details such as WNr?
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

II/St.G 2 lost:
1941-04-14, 4./St.G 2, Ju 87 R-2, 6048, T6+JM, 15 km südwestlich Tobruk
Flugzeugführer Fw Rass, Hinrich, gefangen
Bordfunker Uffz Weber, Fritz, verletzt
Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
1941-04-14, 5./St.G 2, Ju 87 R-2, Tobruk
Bordfunker Uffz Krell, Heinrich, verletzt
Luftkampf mit Jägern. Bruch ? %.
1941-04-14, Stab II/St.G 2, Ju 87 R-2, 6037, Tobruk
Bordfunker Lt Hummel, Erich, gefangen
Luftkampf mit Jägern. Bruch 5 %. Hummerl mit Fallschirm abgesprungen.

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Old 6th January 2022, 16:13
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

Excellent details Matti

Once again I lift my hat off to the almost unbelievable details you have.

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Old 6th January 2022, 17:00
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

Matti's database must be for TOCH members what Görings wine cellar was for Lewis Nixon (1918 – 1995). Isn't it?
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

Thanks Matti and Chris, that is a great help.
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

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Originally Posted by Matti Salonen View Post
In III/St.G 1 was:
1941-04-14, 7./St.G 1, Ju 87 R-2, 5874, J9+CH, Bei Tobruk
Flugzeugführer Lt Martinz, Hans, gefangen
Bordfunker Uffz Pohl, Helmut, gefangen
Notlandung jenseits. Bruch 100 %.

Maybe your Pohl?

Matti
Hello,

Re: Martinz and Pohl:

Enter: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/Sear...archItems.aspx
Enter individual names for each person in 'Keywords' box. You should get:

Hans Martinz - two (2) hits, both digitised.

Helmut Pohl - three (3) hits, 2 digitised.

Use same method for other mentioned POWs in this thread.

Col.
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Old 6th January 2022, 18:42
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Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940

You mean Karl-Hermann Lion?
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