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Old 19th November 2013, 12:48
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Do 17 Z-5 with KüFlGr 606

Does anyone have a list of dates or details of Z-5s lost with 606 in 1940? In Jan 41 they started converting to the Ju 88
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Re: Do 17 Z-5 with KüFlGr 606

I have KTB of this unit.

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Re: Do 17 Z-5 with KüFlGr 606

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For all their Do 17 operations? I think you have my email if not do say

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Re: Do 17 Z-5 with KüFlGr 606

Mr. Goss,
As you likely well aware, loss data can be 'skimpy' for 1940: subtype often not listed, Werknummern and Kennung 'maybe.' Beneath find what Jim Perry and I have gleaned, perhaps redundant to your search, not being "Z-5"s.
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Do 17Z 2815 n.n. 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+NH 14-Sep-1940 Bruchlandung due to enemy fighters. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.640 Fl.Pl. Cherbourg-West 50% F

Do 17Z 3471 Krosigk, Oblt.z.See Eberhardt von 3./KüFlGr. 606 gelbe C 7T+CL 21-Sep-1940 Killed in crash after Luftkampf with enemy fighters. Crashed on return. 2 others killed. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.655; Mason, p.405 Landerneau 100% F

Do 17Z 3497 n.n. 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+LH 21-Sep-1940 Notlandung due to Luftkampf with enemy fighters. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.655; Mason, p.405 Sizun 100% F

Do 17Z 2790 Matthes, Ltn.z.S. 1./KüFlGr. 606 31-Jan-1940 Crew killed in crash, possibly due to pilot error. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Sitzkrieg Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.1 vor Deep bei Treptow 100% H

Do 17Z Euler, Oblt. (B)/Oesterhalweg, Ltn. (F) 2./KüFlGr. 606 28-Mar-1940 Crew killed in crash, cause unknown. Lfl.2/Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.1 bei Kiel 100% H

Do 17Z-3 Priebe, Ltn. (B) 3./KüFlGr. 606 9-Apr-1940 MIA from anti-sub sortie. 2 others MIA, 1 KIA. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.1 Skagerak 100% F

Do 17Z Eiermann, Oblt.z.S. Helmut 1./KüFlGr. 606 17-Apr-1940 WIA with crew due to Flak from Norwegian MTBs. Notlandung. Crew rescued. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.1; Shores, Fledgling Eagles. p.272 nordöstlich Arendal (PlQu. 35 67) 5% F

Do 17Z Prikker, Ltn.z.S. Gerhard (B) 3./KüFlGr. 606 7T+BL 10-Jun-1940 KIA due to Luftkampf with Sunderland from 204 Sq. (W/C Davis). 1 other WIA. 2./KüFlGr. 606 per Shores. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; Shores, Fledgling Eagles. p.346 Pl.Qu. 7295 b F

Do 17 Geschke, Ltn.z.S. 1./KüFlGr. 606 21-Jul-1940 MIA with crew due to Luftkampf with RAF fighters. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; BoB, T&N, p.544 Schottische Küste 100% F

Do 17Z n.n. KüFlGr. 606 5-Aug-1940 Bruchlandung. 2 injured. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; BoB, T&N, p.554 Westerland 70% H

Do 17 Dietrich, Ltn.z.S. 1./KüFlGr. 606 26-Aug-1940 MIA with crew, cause unknown. Other 3 KIA? Update recorded from 4-9-40 #63. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Atlantik Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.598 St. Georgskanal 100% F

Do 17 n.n. 2./KüFlGr. 606 28-Aug-1940 Enemy fire. 1 KIA. Update recorded on from 2-9-40 #61. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.603 100% F

Do 17Z 2838 n.n. 3./KüFlGr. 606 7T+GL 29-Aug-1940 Crew MIA, cause unknown. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.605 Ort unbekannt 100% F

Do 17Z 2878 Rees, Ltn.z.See 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+GH PF+DS 29-Aug-1940 MIA, cause unknown. 1 KIA, 1 other MIA. Update recorded on from 6-9-40 #18. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.605 Ort unbekannt 100% F

Do 17Z Hanschke, Ltn.z.S. 3./KüFlGr. 606 30-Aug-1940 Crew killed in crash after striking the ground. (Undercarriage damage?) Is this dup with loss on 29-Aug? Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Atlantik Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; BoB, T&N, p.606 Bilbao (Portugal?) 100% F

Do 17Z? n.n. 2./KüFlGr. 606 30-Aug-1940 Luftkampf. 1 KIA. Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./Nordsee Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2 Ort unbekannt b F

Do 17Z 1213 n.n. 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+BH 14-Sep-1940 Bruchlandung due to enemy fighters. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.640 Fl.Pl. Cherbourg-West 15% F

Do 17Z 1216 n.n. I./KüFlGr. 606 7T+FN 14-Sep-1940 Bruchlandung due to enemy fighters. '7T+FH'? Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.640 Fl.Pl. Cherbourg-West 80% F

Do 17Z 2687 Sibeth, Ltn.z.See 2./KüFlGr. 606 7T+FK 14-Sep-1940 Crew killed in crash during Bruchlandung. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.640 Cherbourg-West 100% F

Do 17Z-3 1211 n.n. 3./KüFlGr. 606 gelbe M 7T+ML 20-Sep-1940 Flak during sortie to Liverpool. Notlandung due to fuel shortage? Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.653; Mason, p.404 Fl.Pl. Quimper 80% F

Do 17Z 2530 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 3-Oct-1940 Bruchlandung. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.673; Mason, p.431 Fl.Pl. Brest-Süd 20% H

Do 17Z 3491 Schmidt, Oblt.z.See Max-Dieter (B)/Wilm, Fw. (F) 3./KüFlGr. 606 gelbe E 7T+EL 3-Oct-1940 KIA, believed shot down by Flak during night sortie. Wilm and 1 other MIA, 1 KIA. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.673; Mason, p.431 vor Cornwall 100% F

Do 17Z Ebert, Ltn.z.S. KüFlGr. 606 4-Oct-1940 WIA due to Flak. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3 (Penrose) b F

Do 17Z-3 3617 Vollbrecht, Ltn.z.See Paul (B) 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+CH 4-Oct-1940 MIA, cause unknown. 2 others MIA, 1 KIA. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.674; Mason, p.432 100% F

Do 17Z-3 2771 Harbou, Ltn.z.See Erich (B) 3./KüFlGr. 606 7T+HL 9-Oct-1940 KIA with crew, believed shot down by Flak during sortie to Crewe. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.680; Mason, p.440 (Crewe) 100% F

Do 17Z-3 3618 n.n. 3./KüFlGr. 606 7T+KL 10-Oct-1940 Bruchlandung due to enemy fire. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.681; Mason, p.441 Fl.Pl. Brest 15% F

Do 17Z-3 2772 Krause, Ltn.z.See Jürgen von (B)/Vetterl, Fw. Josef (F) 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+EH 11-Oct-1940 POW due to Luftkampf with RAF fighters from 611 Sq. (F/O Watkins & P/O Draper Williams) during sortie to Liverpool. Notwasserung. F KIA, rest POW. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.682; Mason, p.443; Goss, LW Bombers BoB, p.200 vor Insel Bardsey 100% F Bf Ogefr. Helmut Sundermann & Bm Fw. Heinrich Arpert 18.30

Do 17Z-3 2787 n.n. 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+HH 11-Oct-1940 Luftkampf with enemy fighters during sortie to Liverpool. 2 crew FSA of which 1 KIA, 1 POW. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.682; Mason, p.443 Fl.Pl. Brest 45% F

Do 17Z-3 3475 Richter, Oblt. Friedrich-Wilhelm 2./KüFlGr. 606 7T+EK 11-Oct-1940 KIA, cause unknown, during sortie to Crewe. 2 others KIA, 1 MIA. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.682; Mason, p.443 Irish Sea 100% F

Do 17Z 2682 Havemann, Ltn.z.See Heinz (B)/Söcknitz, Uffz. Gerhard 3./KüFlGr. 606 7T+LL 16-Oct-1940 Crew killed in crash during night sortie to Crewe, cause unknown. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.686; Mason, p.449 Nantglyn, Denbighshire 100% F

Do 17Z 2691 Blank, Oblt.z.See Erwin (B)/Faupel, Fw. Heinrich (F) 2./KüFlGr. 606 7T+HK 16-Oct-1940 Crew killed in crash attempting Notlandung during night sortie to Liverpool. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.686; Mason, p.449 Masbury Ring, bei Wells 100% F

Do 17Z 1210 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 19-Oct-1940 Bruchlandung. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.691; Mason, p.453 Fl.Pl. Brest 30% F

Do 17Z-3 2783 Stirnar, Ltn. Walter (F)/Würdemann, Ltn.z.S. Heinrich (B) 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+AH 20-Oct-1940 POW with crew due to bad weather. Notlandung. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.693 Ness Point, Erwarto, Suffolk 100% F

Do 17Z 3437 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 28-Oct-1940 Bruchlandung. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; BoB, T&N, p.702; Mason, p.463 Fl.Pl. Brest 40% F

Do 17Z-2 2844 Ignatius, Ltn. Joachim 2./KüFlGr. 606 7T+MK 7-Nov-1940 MIA with crew, cause unknown. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Foreman, BoB:The Forgotten Months, p.46 (Liverpool) 100% F B Ltn. Alfred Schumacher, Bf Ogefr. Werner Adam & Bm Uffz. Herbert Becker

Do 17Z-3 2794 ./. KüFlGr. 606 9-Nov-1940 Rammed by Bf 110. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Foreman, BoB:The Forgotten Months, p.62 Fl.Pl. Brest-Süd 20% H

Do 17Z-3 2683 Sellhorst, Ltn.z.See Günter (B)/Siefert, Ofw. Walter (F) 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+KH 10-Nov-1940 Crew killed in crash, cause unknown. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Foreman, BoB:The Forgotten Months, p.64 Boconnod Woods, Liskeard, Cornwall 100% F Bf Uffz. Heinz Winkler & Bm Ogefr. Heinz Hassloff

Do 17Z-3 2788 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 18-Nov-1940 Taxiing accident. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3 Fl.Pl. Brest-Süd 6% F

Do 17Z-3 2677 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 21-Nov-1940 Damaged, cause unknown. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3 bei Epinal 50% F

Do 17Z-3 3485 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 21-Nov-1940 Undercarriage damage during landing. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Foreman, BoB:The Forgotten Months, p.117 Fl.Pl. Brest-Süd 10% F

Do 17Z 2796 Saueracker, Ltn.z.S. Martin (B)/Hoferrichter, Ogefr. Albert 1./KüFlGr. 606 7T+TH 24-Nov-1940 POW with crew after flying into balloon barrage. Crashed, Crew FSA. Lfl.3/Atlantik Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Foreman, BoB:The Forgotten Months, p.131; Blitz, Then & Now, II, p.297. Penlee Point, Cornwall 100% F Bf Uffz. Heinrich Weiss & Bm Uffz. Kurt Eiselt

Do 17Z-3 3618 Anders, Ltn. Helmut (F)/Ganske, Ltn.z.S. Karl (B) 3./KüFlGr. 606 7T+KL 2-Dec-1940 Crashed, possibly damaged by enemy fighters. F missing, rest killed. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Foreman, BoB:The Forgotten Months, p.161 bei Brest 100% F Bf Ogefr. Willi Dembeck & Bm Uffz. Paul Tüsslemann

Do 17Z-3 2799 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 12-Dec-1940 Bruchlandung due to pilot error. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3 Brest-Süd 5% F

Do 17Z-3 2632 Becker, Ltn.z.S. Herbert (B)/Ott, Uffz. Karl (F) KüFlGr. 606 21-Dec-1940 Both killed in crash after striking ground upon return from sortie to Liverpool. Burned. Bm killed, Bf injured. 22-Dec per Foreman. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Foreman, BoB:The Forgotten Months, p.202 Fl.Pl. Brest-Süd 100% F Bm Uffz. Heinrich Flossdorf & Bf Ogefr. Johann Schmalfuss

Do 17Z-3 2897 Schneider, Oblt. Hans-Herbert (B)/Hosche, Ofw. Gustav (F) 3./KüFlGr. 606 7T+EL PF+EL 21-Dec-1940 KIA, cause unknown. Rest of crew MIA. 22-Dec per Foreman. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Foreman, BoB:The Forgotten Months, p.202 (Liverpool) 100% F Bf Fw. Gerhard Taulin & Bm Josef Butz

Do 17Z-3 3472 Hübner, Ltn. Günter 3./KüFlGr. 606 7T+JL 17-Feb-1941 POW with crew due to Luftkampf with Beaufighter from 219 Sq. (S/L Little). Crew FSA. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Foreman, 1941, The Turning Point, I, p.153; The Blitz, T&N, II, p.436 Oakley Court, Bray, bei Windsor 100% F B Ltn. Rolf Dieskau, Bf Gefr. Walter Arnold & Bm Uffz. Ernst Tietjen

Do 17Z-3 3485 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 19-Feb-1941 Bruchlandung due to severe ground conditions. Lfl.3/Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Foreman, 1941, The Turning Point, I, p.155 Fl.Pl. Brest 60% F

Do 17Z-3 2805 n.n. KüFlGr. 606 24-Feb-1941 Taxiing accident. Lfl.3/Deutschland Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Foreman, 1941, The Turning Point, I, p.170 Fl.Pl. Ansbach 5% H

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Hi Chris,

I have the KTB for 21.3.40-30.9.40.

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Thanks Graham-there is still no mention of Z-5. A seller in USA is selling items belonging to Ofw Wilhelm Falk of 3/606 which includes a good airborne shot of a Z-5
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