Bf109 Sütterlin

[ouidjat]

Hi Gents,

Can you help me to translate this, please?
Thank you.

Regards,
Franck.

[Rasmussen]

I'd say: "Lt. Kostmanns Bruch" ... about the "K" I'm not sure but for me it's the most probably letter....

Best wishes
Rasmussen

[ouidjat]

Thank you Rasmussen,
Did we have a Kostmanns in LG2 ?

[Bf 110]

Hello,

in my opinion it's "Lt. Kohlmann".

Best Regards
Gunnar - Bf 110 -

[Larry deZeng]

One of these guys, probably:

KOHLMANN, Edmund. (DOB: 16.05.21). 01.03.44 promo to Oblt./A1.
KOHLMANN, Gottfried. 01.09.39 RDA as Lt. 01.12.41 promo to Oblt. 31.10.44 Oblt., appt Staka 2./SG 101 (to 01.03.45).
KOHLMANN, Günther. (DOB: 18.03.12). 27.01.43 Oblt.(Kr.O.), trf from Luftflottenkdo. 3 to FliegerErs.Btl. III. 01.04.43 promo to Hptm. (Kr.O.).

[ouidjat]

Thanks Gunnar,

Lt. Gottfried Kohlmann, 6.(S)/LG2 ( Yes !) - but why 6 ? Maybe he changed unit from 5. Staffel to 6. - Wia on 5/9/1941 Etc.

Thanks all for your dedicated helps.

Regards,
Franck.

[Rottler]

Hello Franck,

Gen.Qu. loss report from 7 Sept 1941:
5.9. 6.(Schl)/LG 2 Feindflug, Ort: Ljuban, Ursache: Feindbeschuss, Kategorie 7 (= beschädigt durch Bordwaffenbeschuss auf Feindflug ohne Feindbeobachtung/damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy).
Bf 109 E-7 4916 50%. Lt Kohlmann, Gottfried verletzt.

Regards
Leo

[ouidjat]

Hi Leo,

Thanks for the complete report, but I already had it and it wasn't my main concern in this thread, that's the reason I didn't give it here.

Once we have the name, Kohlmann, 6. Staffel during September as attested by this report I wonder why his name stands on one picture's back depicting a "Rotes O" of 5. Staffel; in fact TWO pictures showing the same accident.
(And two other pictures published in Prien's JFV Teil 5, so far)

Was Kohlmann in 5. Staffel in April?
Was he in 6. Staffel, flying a 5. Staffel machine that day ?
That's the question now

Thanks anyway.

Regards,
Franck.

PS: By the way; Why Jochen & All never completed II.(S)/LG2 history up to 15 January 1942? There's few missing months to do it; I know it's not a Jagd unit but It wasn't before April 1941 as well ...

[Larry deZeng]

Possibly of minor interest to a few:

II./LG 2
…………………
Dec 41: by December the Gruppe was in support of the heavy defensive fighting along the entire front from Moscow northwest to Lake Ilmen that began with the Soviet counteroffensive on 5 Dec. Base changes were rapid and frequent as the Gruppe attempted to support the German retreat toward the west. On 13 December 4.Staffel (at least) was operating from Staraya Russa at the south end of Lake Ilmen.
6 Jan 42: now based at Dugino/ 65 km south of Rzhev, where it was renamed I./Schlachtgeschwader 1 on 13 January 1942.

It is quite possible that detailed documentation is lacking for the Gruppe's last few months.

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Larry deZeng

Possibly of minor interest to a few:

II./LG 2
…………………
It is quite possible that detailed documentation is lacking for the Gruppe's last few months.

Thanks Larry,

This is what I'm thinking about, indeed.