Crash place:19/03/44

[focusfocus]

Hello all

I am looking for places of crash of these B-24
Can one of you help me?

454th B.GROUP
MACR 3506:serial=42-52125 "Homesick Angel"...crash in Yougoslavia.
MACR 3294:serial=42-52229 "War Weary Wanda"...crash in Yougoslavia.
MACR 3299:serial=42-52272"Rebel Revenge"...crash in Vanetina?Slovenia?.
MACR 3466:serial=41-28659 "Virginie Annie".
MACR 3293:serial=42-52225 "...shot down or accident?

michel

[Alain57]

Hello ,

I found this

B-24 H-10-FO 42-52225 19/03/1944 454BG/737BS , forced landing in Spain , accident

Regards
Alain57

[REDCAP50]

hi focusfocus & Alain,

I found this:
B24 serial 41-28659 : lost Vicinity of WOLDEN (Austria)
cfr http://www.454thbombgroup.it/MACR/3467/Page%2037.jpg

Grtz
redcap50

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Originally Posted by REDCAP50

hi focusfocus & Alain,

I found this:
B24 serial 41-28659 : lost Vicinity of WOLDEN (Austria)
cfr http://www.454thbombgroup.it/MACR/3467/Page%2037.jpg

Grtz
redcap50

Except that it is what is stated in the MACR as the "last sighted" position, crash place could be hundred of kilometers away. And loss position in MACR are often inaccurate too.

[Rottler]

Hello Michel,

MACR 3299
B-24 H-10-FO 42-52272
Place of impact: 1415 hrs Vanetina near Kirchberg in den Bucheln (today Cerkvenjak) in the middle of the line Pettau (today Ptuj) – Radkersburg.
German Abschussnummer/casualty no. ME 923.

MACR 3467 (not 3466)
B-24 H-5-DT 41-28659
Crashplace: 1400 hrs Rann an der Save (today Brežice).
German Abschussnummer/casualty no. ME 929.

Regards
Leo

[focusfocus]

Right Leo,MACR 3467 is 41-28659
MACR 3466 is 41-29310 "Dorothy K" crashed "Pilstanj" Slovenia ....by Flak?

42-52225:
In the list of losses,indicated lost during a raid on Austria!what was he doing in Spain?There is a problem!

Two identified for moment,a good debut.

thanks
michel

[Alex Smart]

Hello Machel,

Are you just seeking US a/c ?
How about RAFSAAF B24 Liberator losses that date ?

19th March 1944
178 Sqdn RAF
EV812 went down into the sea.
But
BZ948, crew bailed.
Both Pilot and Co-Pilot were SAAF men.
5 became POW.
2 evaded
And
F/Sgt. Desmond Maurice TURNER was shot dead.
SAAF a/c KH244 "Q" was lost on 19th March 1945.

Alex

[vathra]

Originally Posted by focusfocus

Hello all

I am looking for places of crash of these B-24
Can one of you help me?

See below:

454th B.GROUP
MACR 3506:serial=42-52125 "Homesick Angel"...crash in Yougoslavia.
No info on it.
Do you have this MACR?

MACR 3294:serial=42-52229 "War Weary Wanda"...crash in Yougoslavia.
MACR is not on Fold3. Two airmen bailed over Yugoslavia and evaded.
Airmen:
Albert Hill
Howard Severson
Frank Turner
Maurice Frantz
Leroy Miller
Charles Ponder
Robert Winner
and maybe Clarence Deal, Donald Furrer, Thomas Parsons
- were from 454bg 736bs (apart from last 3) and were killed on that day. They could be from this plane, but I cannot check it.
Do you have this MACR?
Region of crash is listed as Slovenia, for same men place Senovo is listed.

MACR 3299:serial=42-52272"Rebel Revenge"...crash in Vanetina?Slovenia?.
I have info as Dravograd, Slovenia.
Entire crew KIA/DED.

MACR 3466:serial=41-28659 "Virginie Annie".
Brežice, Slovenia
One airmen evaded, other is DED, remaining POW.

MACR 3293:serial=42-52225 "...shot down or accident?
It could be near Novo Mesto, Slovenia.
I have some Escape statements, but I need MACR to confirm it.
Do you this MACR?

[RSwank]

Regarding 42-52225. The pilot was reported as Aubrey L Edwards. Edwards is listed in the POW lists for Stalag Luft I. Here is a link to when he was first reported missing.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/22393062/

A couple of other newspaper articles report he played saxophone in the POW band at Stalag Luft I.


The 454th BG seems to list two MACRs associated with this aircraft, 3293 and 3284. I can't find 3293 on fold3. 3284 is for a different plane, but on one page it mentions 42-52225 and Aubrey L Edwards included in a list of losses.

Lowell West is listed as the co-pilot of 42-52225 ("Hot Rock"/"Moo Juice?") and there is a story on page 8 about his evasion here:

http://airforceescape.org/wp-content...ember-2003.pdf

[Rottler]

Hello vathra,

to your post #8:

MACR 3299 42-52272 „Entire crew KIA/DED“:
6 members of the 2nd Lt Peters crew were completely burned by the crash and buried in Kirchberg (today Cerkvenjak). 4 parachuted and were captured by the Rural Police Pettau in the middle of the stretch Pettau (today Ptuj) - Radkersburg.

MACR 3293 42-52225 „It could be near Novo Mestro, Slovenia“:
Novo Mestro was the crash place of the B-24 42-52314, MACR 3465, Abschußnummer/German casualty no. ME 930.

Regards
Leo