Horst Lehrmann, need infos...

[Evgeny Velichko]

Originally Posted by RT

IST.ZG26 180741 BF110E-1 4091 U8+AB, lost on mission against Staraja-russa, appear to be "vermisst" not dead his staff-mat was dead

remi

His Bf110 was shot down by I-153's from 38 iap, who claimed "3 Bf110 in area Staraya Russa-Ivanovskoye at 18:40" with real german losses of 1 destroyed and 1 damaged Bf110.

Best wishes

[Many Souffan]

Thank you Evgeny and Larry.

Do you think it exist a photograph of Horst Lerhmann ?

1 or 2 years ago a photo of the Me 110's Lerhman was sold on ebay and I look for it.

Something you don't know, he was a close friend to Heinz Bretnütz and also to Walter Oesau. There were together at Döberitz between nov 1936 and march 1937 in I/JG132

thank you again.

[Evgeny Velichko]

Hmm... I dont know his personal aircraft.

I./ZG 26 lost 4 aicrafts with unknown code to date of last combat of Lehrmann (I mean 22.06.41 - 18.07.41), so, it could be that his personal aircraft was lost/damaged. POSSIBLY it could be Bf110E-1 W.Nr.4068 of I./ZG 26, wich was 40% damaged after belly land on Lepel airfield on 14.07.41, just 4 days before Lehrmann was killed.

So, in his last mission he flew in very well known BF110E-1 W.Nr.4091 "U8+AB", Hptm. Spiess, with 21 abschusse markings on fin, "Ringelpietz" and black double schevrons on the nose. I have several photoes of it, but it could be found in many good books about Bf110.

[Evgeny Velichko]

Many - I have here soviet document, combat report of 38iap pilots about that aircombat. If You interested - let me know.

[Peter Kassak]

2./ZG 141 StKpt Hptm. Lehrmann, Horst 01.11.38 - 01.05.39
2./ZG 1 StKpt: Oblt. Lehrmann, Horst 01.05.39 - 22.06.40

[Evgeny Velichko]

Yep.
22.06.40 - 26.06.41 - StaKa inside I./ZG26 (2./ZG26??)
26.06.41 - 18.07.41 - Gr.Kdr. I./ZG26

Hptm. Spiess was Gr.Kdr. AFTER Lehrmann, so... It means, that Hptm. Lehrmann flew in HIS own aircraft, but not Spiess'.

[Doug Stankey]

Here is what we have concerning this fellow:

LEHRMANN, Horst. 01.11.36 trf to I./JG 132. 1938 Oblt. with 2.Staffel of J/88 of the Legion Condor in Spain. 01.11.38 Hptm., appt Staka 2./ZG 141. 01.05.39 appt Staka 2./ZG 1. 09.39 Oblt., Staka 2./ZG 1. 01.04.40 promo to Hptm. 07.41 Hptm., in Stab I./ZG 26 (MIA 18.07.41 - in Bf 110 E shot down by Soviet fighter over Staraya Russa during an attack on the airfield there).

We hope that this helps.

HLdZ
DGS

[Evgeny Velichko]

Details of his last mission:

"38 iap:

12:45-13:05
5 I-153 and 1 I-16 were on patrol over own airfield,
Attack of 9 Me-110 on a/f with following aircombat, resulted:

2 I-153 and 1 U-2 burned on the ground, 1 pilot - L-t Zhukov - wounded;
2 I-153 and 1 I-16 damaged in aircombat, 1 pilot - L-t Naumov - injured.

Two victories claimed:

Me-110, L-t Gulyaev, Staraya Russa a/f
Me-110, L-t Balyuk, Staraya Russa a/f"

Actual german losses:
Bf110E-1 W.Nr.4068, 100%, crew KiA.
Bf110E-1 W.Nr.3872, 40%, bellylanded at Pskov a/f, crew unhurt.

[Many Souffan]

Hello Evgeny.

Of course I am interested by this russian document, if I can have also a little translation...

Thank you again

Ps:I am going to contact you off board also another personal question

[Stig Jarlevik]

Evgeny

Looking in Meyer/Stipdonk's Die Deutsche Luftwaffe Zerstörer und Nachtjagdverbände vol 3 there is nothing which indicates that Lehrman was a Staffelkapitän in I./ZG 26

True enough there are names missing from some of the Staffeln, most prominently the name of 2./ZG 26 St.Kap. is missing during the period 18.8.1940 to 3.1941, although this seems to have been a substitute for Herbert Kaminski who was the Kapitän both before and after these dates.

One interesting comment in the book is that they claim Lehrman became a POW. Any comments to that?

Cheers
Stig