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Old 3rd March 2023, 16:45
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Re: Battle of Britain Then and Now - Update

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ATB was bought by P&S

I am pleasantly surprised to the fact that ATB would still publish new books, great news !
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Old 3rd March 2023, 21:14
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Re: Battle of Britain Then and Now - Update

Well, well...
Are the EOE contributors going to be credited for their substantial contributions to the loss data?
Small sample:

2.8.40
Western Front

1./BordFlSt. 196 Arado Ar196A-2 (0066). Crashed on landing at Schellingwoude following anti-submarine patrol off the Dutch coast 10.32 p.m. BO Lt zur See Johannes Nowrat and FF Uffz Johannes Schminde both unhurt. Aircraft T3+CH 65% damaged - write-off. (KTB via RS)
(Note: Revised per 4/18/18 PC email)

John you should check the copyrights to this stuff...before it will be too late...
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Old 3rd March 2023, 23:05
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Re: Battle of Britain Then and Now - Update

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Well, well...
Are the EOE contributors going to be credited for their substantial contributions to the loss data?
Small sample:

2.8.40
Western Front

1./BordFlSt. 196 Arado Ar196A-2 (0066). Crashed on landing at Schellingwoude following anti-submarine patrol off the Dutch coast 10.32 p.m. BO Lt zur See Johannes Nowrat and FF Uffz Johannes Schminde both unhurt. Aircraft T3+CH 65% damaged - write-off. (KTB via RS)
(Note: Revised per 4/18/18 PC email)

John you should check the copyrights to this stuff...before it will be too late...

I would say it should not, Battle of Britain should only include the battle over Britain and its surrounding area , it should not include losses of RAF and Luftwaffe in the clashes over the sea near Europe mainland or the RAF's losses suffered in their bombing offense against German target in the Europe in the same time period of the the Battle of Britain, that should belong to another fought at the same time of BoB.
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Old 3rd March 2023, 23:07
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Re: Battle of Britain Then and Now - Update

Who holds the EOE data? That project was never published.
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Old 4th March 2023, 00:55
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Re: Battle of Britain Then and Now - Update

Mars,
That was one minor example of what was supplied by many contributors in private email discussions to improve EOE loss lists, there are numerous other examples of losses and major amendments contributed by others that will undoubtedly be covered by the Battle of Britain Then and Now's area of interest.
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Old 4th March 2023, 00:56
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Re: Battle of Britain Then and Now - Update

Ed,
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Thank you Robert.
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Old 4th March 2023, 01:27
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Re: Battle of Britain Then and Now - Update

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Four volumes by 2024? Good luck all
The blurb was put together by the 'Digital Marketing Team' at P&S either without reference to the contracts, or they have misread the contracts. The terms in the contract state all material to be delivered by the end of September 2024.

And thanks for your best wishes. Given the many decades or research, writing and publishing by those involved, both main and subsidiary, the date as shown above is achieveable.

Additional info as follows:
The original edition is now way out of date. And the original is 816 pages, so the updated edition will be close to 900 pages, as a rough estimate. This new figure factors in new additions like the Capel-Le Ferne monument, which didn't exist in 1980; a complete re-write of the VC section; 40+years of updates on every airfield; updates on the archaeology, including new digs such as the Rubensdörffer site, for example. Just so much new stuff that was gone over in minute detail in meetings that have been held. But we had to say nothing pending the full completion of the contracts. This completed updated edition is in 4 volumes, as the announcement says. Also, the publication of each edition will be staggered so that it is more 'customer-friendly' on the pocket. To publish a single volume with today's publishing costs would mean something north of £150, which is simply not feasible. With me being heavily involved, I can now say that it has been 12 months in the planning even to reach the stage of the announcement.
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Just enough time for potential buyers to amass the money and find the shelf space perhaps!

See my post #18, Nick. Publishing of each volume will be staggered.
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Plus the 7 (?) volumes Dilip Sarkar is doing on the BofB......
Come on, Chris, you know the format of BoBT&N, and that will be adhered to. What Dilip does, narrative-wise, with his works is unlikely to be in the same format...
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