Martin Drewes Abschussmeldung May 13/44

[Jayhammond]

Hello

I realize this is a long shot but I am trying to find the Abschussmeldung for Martin for the early morning victories he scored on May 13, 1944. My uncle who was flying Halifax Mk III LW682 OW-M was shot down near Geraardsbergen, Belgium and was Martin’s third victim. Maybe there are collectors out there or other folks who have managed to get their hands on some of the III./NJG 1 records. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Jay Hammond

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Jay Hammond, good morning.

I met Martin twice here in Brazil, in 1996; before he published his own memoirs both in German and in Portuguese language.

He told me that he ordered and supervised the burial of the III Gruppe NJG 1 archives and documents under a tree, close to Husum, by the end of the war, to not falling onto Allied hands by the surrender (1945).

I personally doubt if the Official Records of his Gruppe survived...but at the RLM copies of his Abschüssmeldungs may have survived.

When I visited him, he showed me the video recorded on the occasion that LW682 wreckage and remains were found and told me there was "animosity" against him this day. I understand both sides...but he was invited and came along to pay his homage, as an Aviator, to the former enemies.

I invited the family of a German Ace who shot down a Brazilian Aviator shot down as well to a Cerimony held in 2019; which of course the German Family never answered back (and then, later I found the Brazilian Family would not like this kind of encounter - luckily for me who was helping organizing/paving the way to the meeting).

Hope you will be successful (check with Dr. Theo Boithen or other Dutch Historians) in finding this document.

I remain, must humbly yours,
Adriano Silva Baumgartner, ASV 00.344

[Jayhammond]

Adriano

Thank you for your prompt and informative reply. I’m sure Walter Scheel has passed on so I don’t know of any III./NJG personnel who might know the whereabouts of where near Husum the files were buried. Maybe someone with a lot of time, a metal detector and a shovel (not to mention an ample supply of luck) could do something. Perhaps a call out to the magazine for German fliers and their former ground crew. A wild guess.

So Theo, in all your years of searching various German archives, especially Freiburg, have you ever come across any III./NJG 1 material? I’m grasping at straws now.

Cheers to both of you.
Jay

[Chris Goss]

Suggest you PM Theo as he might not see this post

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello Jay,

The Bundesarchiv Freiburg (under signature RL 10/541 when I remember it correctly) has some material of the III./NJG 1 including a claimlist of its pilots. I do have a copy of this claimlist.

I doubt whether someone will make an attempt to check each tree in the vicinity of Husum whether an archival treasure is hidden there.

Good hunt ! Best regards, Marcel

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Jayhammond

Perhaps a call out to the magazine for German fliers and their former ground crew. A wild guess.
Jay

Chances are slim. Anyone who served at the end of the war was probably born before about 1927, so would be at least 93 years old now if he still lived.

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Jay,

Please do let me ask why the Abschüssmeldung for this claim, which was clearly (it is documented and had been cross-checked and positively identified) recorded by Drewes' crew is so essential? To determine the time or type of attack?

I do not remember by heart if he mentioned this victory onto his memories...if you are able to read German, maybe you can find his book in German language. The portuguese version is almost non-existent anymore and the prices sought for those books are extremely high nowadays.

Have you met him personally when the wreck was excavated ?

I remember quite clearly what he said to me, regarding this particular loss and the meeting on a lunch at his home town. Can send to you privately if you do wish so.

A.

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Jay,

Contact me at: baumgartner_asv@yahoo.com.br

[ju55dk]

There is nothing except a Photoalbum 1942 left in Bundesarchiv RL 10, about III/NJG 1. Only I. and II. Gruppe.

Junker

[ClinA-78]

Just a feeling,

As a late youngster, I attended the recovery of "M for Mother" and the burial (meeting also briefly Martin Drewes), another moving event leading me to my nowadays researches.

ClinA-78