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Old 18th May 2019, 15:49
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You as usual: quick in debasing others, unable to provide anything that's better.
Debasing others....?
Pffft. That's been you since your very first thread...
...what happened to that again? Oh that's right, it got closed down and so did so many others that you originated because you try (...and fail miserably...) to get clever with people.

1000+ posts of sheer uselessness later and you still haven't learned.

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Old 18th May 2019, 18:16
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You as usual: quick in debasing others, unable to provide anything that's better.
I suggest you look again at your own post #28 before complaining about dismissive responses. In all your time on this forum you have never provided “anything that’s better”, have you? That leaves you ill-placed to be lecturing others.
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Old 18th May 2019, 18:33
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Something that's better:

3rd claim 3.10.43/2229 Halifax V SW of Hessen or Kassel @ 4000m Possibly EB214/NA-S of 428 sqn RCAF. Sgt K A B McArthur and one other KIA, remaining six crewmen all POW. Attributed to flak by British sources


4th claim 3.10.43/2241 Halifax ENE of Hessen or Kassel @ 4000m Possibly LE269 of 77 sqn. Sgt. F J A Bailey and crew all KIA

10th claim 6.1.44/0411 Lancaster III ("Viermot") W of Stettin Possibly ND324/PH-E of 12 sqn. F/O W Kroeker RCAF and crew all interned in Sweden (forcelanded at Kalmar)

12th claim 20.2.44/0327 Lancaster III Berlin @ 6500m Possibly DV220/AS-J of 166 sqn. F/S Francis Frederick George Allan RCAF and two others KIA, remaining four crewmen all POW

16th claim 26.8.44/0038 Mosquito Nienburg area (PQ FF) @ 9500m Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

18th claim 18.7.44/1047 P-51C-10-NT Mustang Fuessen area (PQ 14 Ost N/FB) @ 7000m 12th or 15th AAF. Was this 42-103947 of 301st FS, 332nd FG (Tuskegee Airmen)? - Lost SW of Muenchen, in combat with Fw190s so the location and type of German aircraft is correct

19th claim 18.7.44/1055 P-51B-5 Mustang Schongau area @ 4500m Said to be 43-6854 of 308th FS, 31st FG. Pilot seen to bale out but parachute failed, KIA

24th claim 30.8.44/0205 Lancaster Stettin area (PQ CJ-BJ) @ 4800m Believed to be overclaiming as the claim was rejected

25th claim 30.8.44/0210 Lancaster Stettin area (PQ CJ-BJ) @ 3900m Possibly PD273 of 12 sqn, PB365 of 103 sqn, PD261 of 166 sqn or PB131 of 115sqn

26th claim 30.8.44/0212 Lancaster Stettin area (PQ CJ-BJ) @ 4800m Possibly PD273 of 12 sqn, PB365 of 103 sqn, PD261 of 166 sqn or PB131 of 115sqn

27th claim 30.8.44/0215 Lancaster Stettin area (PQ CJ-BJ) @ 4800m Believed to be overclaiming as the claim was rejected
28th claim 11.9.44/2258 Mosquito XX PQ FG-4 @ 8000m KB227/XD- of 139 "Jamaica" sqn. F/L J A F Halcro and F/L T J Martin (both RCAF) both KIA

29th claim 12.9.44/2316 Mosquito XVI Hopsten-Bramsche [or Berlin?] (PQ GG 2-3) @ 8300m Possibly MM127/8K- of 571 sqn. Damaged (by Flak according to British sources) and abandoned off East Anglia coast, F/O N J Griffiths and F/O W Ball both apparently safe
(Ofw. Walter Baltruschat also submitted TWO claims for Mosquitoes but this is the ONLY attributable loss…)

31st claim 13.9.44/1742 Mosquito Salzwedel (PQ 15 Ost S/EC-4) @ 5000m Was this Mk XVI MM280 of 140 sqn? F/L C T Butt and F/S F R J Richardson. Initially damaged by a Bf109, later collided with another (which they claimed destroyed) yet returned safely

32nd claim 16.9.44/0203 Mosquito XX S of Berlin (PQ 15 Ost S/GG-2) @ 8500m KB239/6T-G of 608 sqn. F/L B H Smith RCAF and Sgt. L F Pegg both KIA

33rd claim 16.9.44/0230 Mosquito FB VI N of Achmer/Gardelegen (PQ 15 Ost S/GC-FB) @ 8500m PZ184/3P- of 515 sqn, S/L C Best DFC and F/S H Dickinson KIA.

34th claim 18.9.44/2305 Mosquito FB VI Lune-Jueterbog/Jueterbog-Bergwitz/N of Wittenberg (PQ HJ-JF) @ 8000m Probably PZ177/YP-A of 23 sqn. F/O K Eastwood and F/L G G Rogers both KIA

Unconfirmed? Claim 19/20.9.44 Mosquito Only traceable loss of a Mosquito this night was KB267/AZ-E of 627 sqn. W/C Guy P Gibson VC, DFC & DSO and S/L J B Warwick DFC both KIA (ACTUALLY DUE TO FRIENDLY FIRE)

Unconfirmed? Claim 27/28.9.44 Mosquito Wreck may have been found by German authorities, 9km E of Hoogeven (29km E of Meppel)

35th claim 6.10.44/2030 Mosquito XVI Berlin @ 8000m Possibly MM113/8K-G of 571 sqn. F/L G W McCallum and Sgt. L W Claydon both POW (Both Czypionka and Schmid also claimed but this is the only attributable loss)

36th claim 28.10.44/0120 Mosquito N of Berlin/10km W of Bernau (PQ FG-3) @ 8000m Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

37th claim 11/12.12.44 Mosquito XVI Possibly MM190/M5-O of 128 sqn. F/L Ronald Charles Onley and F/O George Barrowby Collins RAAF both KIA

2/3.1.45 Mosquito XX Possibly KB222/XD-R of 139 "Jamaica" sqn, F/L J P O Howard DFC RCAF and F/L D G Williams DFC both KIA

5.1.45 Mosquito PR XVI Possibly ML942 of 571 sqn, F/O F L Henry RNZAF and F/S R A Stinson RAAF, baled out over own territory

10.1.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

21/22.2.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

21/22.2.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

22.2.45/1300 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

22.2.45/1300 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

2/3.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

2/3.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

6/7.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

6/7.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

17/18.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

17/18.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

21.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

21.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming
24/25.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

27/28.3.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

30/31.3.45 Mosquito Overclaiming, only one loss attributable: Mk XVI RV341/P3-B of 692 sqn. F/S W Campey and F/S J Rabiner RCAF both KIA

30/31.3.45 Mosquito Overclaiming, only one loss attributable: Mk XVI RV341/P3-B of 692 sqn. F/S W Campey and F/S J Rabiner RCAF both KIA

30/31.3.45 Mosquito Overclaiming, only one loss attributable: Mk XVI RV341/P3-B of 692 sqn. F/S W Campey and F/S J Rabiner RCAF both KIA

30/31.3.45 Mosquito Overclaiming, only one loss attributable: Mk XVI RV341/P3-B of 692 sqn. F/S W Campey and F/S J Rabiner RCAF both KIA

10.4.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

11.4.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

13.4.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

14.4.45 Mosquito 608 sqn, F/O George Nunn and P/O Harry S T Harris, uninjured, aircraft only damaged

15.4.45 Mosquito Cannot find an attributable loss, likely overclaiming

18.4.45 Mosquito Was this one of the two 219 sqn machines lost this night? MM733/Z of F/O A C J Petrisse and F/O M H J Laloux both Belgian and both KIA plus NT380 of F/O R L Young KIA and F/O N G Fazan safe
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Re: Top Jet Aces

That's not better.
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That's not better.
Since your contributions to this forum so far amount to precisely zero, you are in no position to criticise the researchers on whose work you remain content to feed. Learn some manners before you even think of posting again.
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Researchers on whose work I feed are great characters like the mentioned Hugh Morgan, John Weal and Petr Kacha. Also Johannes Mathews, Andrew Thomas and Many Souffan.
I never gained anything that was of interest for me from you or the other Nick.
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Researchers on whose work I feed are great characters like the mentioned Hugh Morgan, John Weal and Petr Kacha. Also Johannes Mathews, Andrew Thomas and Many Souffan.
I never gained anything that was of interest for me from you or the other Nick.

The smarter you try to be, the funnier you end up being.

Have a look at the acknowledgements section of Petr Kacha's outdated, frozen-in-time page. I made quite a few contributions to it back before Petr stopped updating it so long ago. I'm also the first to tell you that it is way out of date.

1. Welter 27(63)
2. Eder 24(78)
3. Schall 17(137)
4. Bär 16(221)
5. Rademacher 16(97)
6. Rudorffer 12(224)
7. Buchner 12(58)
8. Schnörrer 11(46)
9. Stehle 11(26)
10. Weber 10(13)

...that's not even valid any more. Happy suspension, Knusel.
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Joe, by the way, do you have a full list of Soviet victories (read it claims if you wish) in Korea?
Good morning Franek,

you find an appealing list about the scores of Soviet Korean War Aces here:
https://www.amazon.de/Soviet-MiG-15-...gateway&sr=8-1
I don't know if a full list of Soviet Korean War kills exists.

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BTW another notable performance: the most succesful F-14 pilot of the Iranian Air Force, Major Jalal Zandi scored nine confirmed air victories against Iraqi jets (two MiG-23'BNs and two Su-22'Ms the others were fighters) Altough there were overclaims in the Iraqi-Iranian war (and false reports by propaganda), he was the most succesful jet pilot of the last three decades.
Has there ever been an official ace list issued by the Iraninan authorities ?
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