Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy

[keith A]

On this date the 325th FG made claims for 38 Axis aircraft (and 6 probables). Among the aircraft were...

11 Ju52, 2 ju88, do217, fi156, hs126, 16 bf109 and 6 Mc202....

Does anyone know which LW/ANR units were encountered?

regards

Keith

[RT]

That is documented, Do217 at Vis , Fi156 near my home at Bannia by Pordenone.

Rémi

[veltro]

Originally Posted by keith A

Does anyone know which LW/ANR units were encountered?

ANR = 1° Gruppo Caccia (3 a/c lost)

LW = I./JG 53 (6 a/c lost + 2 on ground) - II./JG 53 (4 a/c lost)
Stab./JG 77 - I./JG 77 (4 a/c lost)

Also 1 Savoia Marchetti S.81 with German markings was shot down (which most probably was the "Ju 52" claimed...)

All the above has been throughly researched and published by Roberto Bassi in the second volume of his excellent "Il cielo sopra Campoformido", which narrates in two books the history of Campoformido airfield from its constitution to date.

[pelagonia]

Dear RT,

I would very much know more about the fi 156 near Bannia. Are there any more info about it?

[RT]

There are also real Ju52 Lost , Ferdinando, a bit more on the Sm81 ??

30 1 44 5 TG2 Rivia Abschuß JU52 3233 8T+CP
30 1 44 5 TG2 Rivia Abschuß JU52 4046 8T+DP
30 1 44 5 TG2 Rivia Abschuß JU52 6650 8T+HN
30 1 44 5 TG2 Rivia Abschuß JU52/3mg10e 10148 8T+BP
30 1 44 5 TG2 Rivia Abschuß JU52/3mg7e 7268 8T+CN

Remi

[RT]

The Ju88, possibly ,
30 1 44 Wekusta 26 F Ravenna X JU88A-4 550496 5M+H

Seems to match the journey of the Sammies ost-coast Italy going north

Rémi

[RT]

Salve Pelo,

30 1 44 Verb,st,300 H Bannia b, Fiume-Veneto FJ 325 FG, FI156 1323 PR+XG 100 x Liebmann gerhard uf f dead

Remigio

A rather consistant share of those data comes from Matti Salonen, seems is out at the moment , as is very liberal with his knowledge, I posted them

[veltro]

Concerning the loss also of several Ju 52s, my fault. The book reports them too.

Concerning the S.81, the only details I can add is that it was hit by P.47s which set the port wing on fire and it crashed at 12.30 hrs on a farm in Visinale di Sopra (a fraction of Pasiano - PN), killing the crew and the two unlucky inhabitants Gioacchino Turchetto and his wife Angela Berto.

Fragments of the aircraft, piloted by a German Feldwebel, with an Unterfelfwebel and an Unteroffizier on board (no names are supplied in the Italian documents of the time) crashed also on a second house, damaging and burning it, with no other human loss.

BTW, about the Ju 52s, what is "Rivia"...? Such a place do not exist. Could it be "Rivis", which is a locality SW of Udine...?

[RT]

certainly Rivis, dont aware which area was in cause when I transcript the losses, concerning the Sm81, I hv two losses the day after? one with only three casualties, nd near Aviano so always in that area probably our guys

Brischnick adolf uffz bf t
Topf albert uffz bm t
Wegener gerhard uffz f t

9.TG1 F Aviano FJ SM82 61527
12.TG1 F Aviano FJ SM82 61528


Do we hv a time for the claims of the 325.FG ??

Rémi

[veltro]

The loss reported of the S.81 took place on 30 January, as there is an official Italian typewritten document of the local Carabinieri on the accident and it was written on the 31st reporting in full detail the events of the day before (quoting the date, of course...).

I have xeroxes of the original document supplied by Roberto Bassi himself.