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Old 18th February 2021, 20:51
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Finnish Dornier Do17Z, WkNr.2608

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In the book 'Finnish Bomber Colours' by Karl Stenman/Karolina Holda (MMP Books) I read that Do17Z, WkNr. 2608, delivered to Finland on 06 Jan.42 (Finnish reg. DN-52) flew before for the Luftwaffe as nightfighter equipped with a 20mm MG FF in its glasnose.

So I assume, this Do17Z was not converted to a Do 17 Z-7/Z-10 Kauz I/II (ref. here to Mikael Olrog's excellent book 'Dornier Do 215', Crecy Publ., p.185) but delivered to Finland instead !?
Is it possible, that this WkNr. is the R4+ZK on the att. photo?
Who has more about this Wk.Nr. in former Luftwaffe service?
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(The Bomber Colours book mentions this WkNr. was struck by the Fins on 01
Oct.1952...!)
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Old 18th February 2021, 21:14
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Re: Finnish Dornier Do17Z, WkNr.2608

2607 and 2605 were pure Do 17 Z bombers with KG 3 but Mikael is working on a book on the Kauz so either he or someone in Finland will be able to help for sure. If it had a single 20mm in a glass nose it was not a Z-7 or Z-10-such guns were commonplace from 1940 onwards for ground strafing
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Old 18th February 2021, 23:36
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Re: Finnish Dornier Do17Z, WkNr.2608

There are several photos of DN 52 in Suomen ilmavoimien Historica 2. That Do 17 appears to be a normal Do 17 Z-3 with a MG 15 in the nose.
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Old 19th February 2021, 20:21
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Re: Finnish Dornier Do17Z, WkNr.2608

According to Pentti Manninen's article "Dornier Do 17 Z tuttu tuntematon" in Suomen Ilmailuhistoriallinen Lehti 4/2006 pp. 19 - 21;
DN-52 WNr. 2608 Muster Do 17 Z-3 (ex-Do 17 Z-9?) Stkz. DM+DU Flight time with the Luftwaffe 296 h 40 min.

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Old 20th February 2021, 21:48
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Re: Finnish Dornier Do17Z, WkNr.2608

THe conclusion made in the MMP book is not what is written in Finnish publications - they rather suggest that 2608 was modified as a ground attack aircraft. There is no support for it having been used in night fighter role - unless Stenman have unearthed new documents that are not reflected in his earlier books on the Do 17.
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Old 20th February 2021, 23:56
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Re: Finnish Dornier Do17Z, WkNr.2608

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THe conclusion made in the MMP book is not what is written in Finnish publications - they rather suggest that 2608 was modified as a ground attack aircraft. There is no support for it having been used in night fighter role - unless Stenman have unearthed new documents that are not reflected in his earlier books on the Do 17.
That is also the opinion of Manninen, Z-9 was a ground attack project. DN-60, WNr. 2818 was ex-Do 17 Z-10, delivered to Finns as Z-3, Stkz. PK+FK, Kennz. 5K+CR, flight time with the LW 425 h 15 min.
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