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Erich Hartmann: 352 victories or... 80?
Today I flicked through the latest issue of Le Fana de l'Aviation (Febr. 2005).
The feature article, titled: 'Erich Hartmann: 352 victories or... 80?', written by a Russian researcher, Dmitry Khazanov, deals with the air victory claims of the top fighter ace of all times. I did not have a chance to read much of the article, but based on the title, the Russian writer doubts the veradicity of most of Hartmann's victory claims. I would like to hear from someone, who has read the article and the conclusion drawn by the author. Dénes
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No, do not read French either, I only read Chinese and English, and I believe this article was first published in Russian, I heard someone mentioned it before.
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It never published in russian
Hi
As I know, it never published in russian. However I can ask russian text from author. Dmitriy |
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Hartmann
I haven't read the article myself...however Hans Ring has compiled a lengthy 5-page reply rebutting most of the arguments ('facts') presented therein...the piece is awaiting translation before hopefully appearing in a future issue..
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FalkeEins and karlenko, very interesting, would one of you genttlemen be nice enough to give us some at least brief information about Mr Khazanov's and Mr Ring's rebuke ? I would be very appreciated
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Hartmann's air victories
The basic question is that is there a complete, final list with all of Hartmann's 352 victory claims? AFAIK, only the first 150 vics., as written in his first logbook, are known 100%, as his second logbook was stolen when he surrendered in 1945.
Recently, the French aviation magazine, Avions, published a long article on him, incl. a reconstruction of his victory claims. The second part of his claims list was spotty, at the best (and did not overlap with the info published by Tony Wood). Dénes
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Re: Erich Hartmann: 352 victories or... 80?
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I have heard that his works are generally well researched. However, I did not read any of his books, as I don't know Russian. Opinions? Dénes
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Re: Erich Hartmann: 352 victories or... 80?
Fair enough, Denes, please kind enough to give us more details when you have a chance to finish this article.
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